Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 14, 2024 8:37 pm  

Sam B will most likely just bide his time before going back to Aus I think. Also he's a petulant fella when he wants to be, he needs to grow up a bit to be a head coach frankly.

What he does do is inspire the team and clearly drills hard defence into them, as you would expect. You can at least see his influence on them.

Against us, Wire have been the best side I've seen this year so far, I thought they looked very good.

I still don't think the squad we have is quite there. We have work to do with a couple more key signings; coaching appointments will likely change at the end of the year in some form or another.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Wed May 15, 2024 7:57 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

Some of the best GF winning Leeds teams have been underdogs - in 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012 etc - what's your point Flexwheeler? You do realise that good teams are not always expected to win, right?

The revisionism on this forum in the last few weeks really has been epic. We've been hearing that Furner would have been a better coach than Smith if only JJB hadn't complained and got GH and Sinfield to cut short his tenure, and now being an underdog is a sign of a team playing poorly. Jesus wept.

I'll raise your epic and put down irrelevant the current team is not remotely close to the above mentioned title winning teams. My question to the more knowledgeable attendees on here is who/when/and how are we going to challenge for silverware?

Re: Smith out ASAP : Wed May 15, 2024 8:14 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

The Momster will come good. It was a shame Lumb got injured so soon as it seemed they had the makings of a decent combination. I like Roberts but he doesn't seem to be a natural winger.

The Momster you're having a laugh I've seen more meat on a butcher's pencil copy and paste the earth shattering wrecking ball Fusitua un interested journey men living of performances playing in quality teams, their not now and have been found out like it or not the proof is reality former Dudd latter looking the former!

Re: Smith out ASAP : Wed May 15, 2024 8:36 pm  

RAPIDO wrote:

The Momster you're having a laugh I've seen more meat on a butcher's pencil copy and paste the earth shattering wrecking ball Fusitua un interested journey men living of performances playing in quality teams, their not now and have been found out like it or not the proof is reality former Dudd latter looking the former!

Eh?

Re: Smith out ASAP : Wed May 15, 2024 8:53 pm  

I think in English he doesn't rate him......

at the moment me neither, but it's early days for him

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Smith out ASAP : Thu May 16, 2024 1:30 pm  

Think he’s been carrying an injury all season and has just been managing it so far up to re-aggravating it and then needing surgery.

Think he will do a decent job once back to full fitness.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Thu May 16, 2024 2:03 pm  

I was hoping Momorovski would be better but eel he has been slowly improving and I am hoping in time he will be a good player for Leeds.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Thu May 16, 2024 3:31 pm  

Wasn't Mom the one that missed pre season due to family stuff and the move?.

Bit unlucky as with any injury,I think people are just so frustrated with how often Fusi and Newman are out that now any new guy that gets an injury will be the cherry on the cake for the tipping point

Re: Smith out ASAP : Fri May 17, 2024 9:12 am  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

Some of the best GF winning Leeds teams have been underdogs - in 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012 etc - what's your point Flexwheeler? You do realise that good teams are not always expected to win, right?

The revisionism on this forum in the last few weeks really has been epic. We've been hearing that Furner would have been a better coach than Smith if only JJB hadn't complained and got GH and Sinfield to cut short his tenure, and now being an underdog is a sign of a team playing poorly. Jesus wept.

When you make decisions about coaches you have to support them through the really tough times and support the changes they want to make. You cannot be forever looking back as to how it was in your day and your methods of working. That was a major issue. If the coach is not supported by a senior player who is using a divide and conquer strategy with players in the squad the coach has no chance unless he removes the player which wasn't an option. Perhaps if Furner had a squad all pulling in the same direction things could have been different.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat May 18, 2024 1:51 pm  

That's nonsense. Under Furner we lost eight of our first ten games. He brought over the hopelessly unfit Lolohea and kept picking him, amongst other bad decisions. If Lolohea had been a world beater and we hadn't been playing terribly then even if JJB or others were muttering behind the scenes they wouldn't have been listened to.

Before us Furner's tenure of the Raiders was a chaotic mess. He was only appointed there because of his links with the club (sounds familiar?) and his dad. If he had been anyone else he would have been gone more than a year before he was eventually kicked out, with a 43% win rate over five generally dire seasons.

Once he was hooked at the Raiders he didn't get a look-in as a first team coach anywhere else for SIX years until Leeds brought him in. Lots of NRL jobs came and went in that time. Nobody else was interested.