Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:31 pm  

Frankly we could do a lot better than Lisone in my opinion. Not sure its fair on Hudson - I'd say the jury's out until we see him play isn't it?

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:58 pm  

chapylad wrote:

Unfortunately with the exception of a couple or three the players brought in by Smith are nowhere near good enough for a top 3 or 4 team.
We probably need at least 6 decent new recruits and are able to ship almost as many out.
Fusi, Momorovski, Frawley, Goudemand, Donaldson, maybe Sangare and if he doesn`t start playing to his strengths Newman need shipping out.
We then need props such as Belin maybe who is available next year, Sironen/ Fitzgibbon type second rowers and a decent centre maybe 2 along with an organising half back or Mikey Lewis type player.
No way this will happen but that`s how far I believe we are from a top 3 team.

You may be right, but if you are we can all put of feet up for at least another full season after this.

What we have to do now is fix up as much as we can within cap, contract and quota. I believe we can add 2x quality forwards and either a new 7 or centre and get us in better shape - it is a little depressing that we still look like we need to regroup and have a pre-season…

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:20 pm  

I suspect Arthur may upset a few on here in some of his first selections...

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:44 pm  

why? he can only work with what's there.
what he can improve is structure, discipline, game plan and organisation.
and after the last clown he will be a massive upgrade

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:40 pm  

I'd be surprised if in his first game at least he picks as close to the first choice 17 we have available. They're supposedly the best players and are the most experienced. Given how few games we have left to improve though he may make changes very quickly if performances don't pick up.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Mon Jul 15, 2024 6:18 am  

I wouldn't be surprised as he comes in with fresh eyes, shirt numbers will mean little and usually those further down the numbers are usually less experienced, not necessarily not as good. I
One I'll be interested to see what happens with is O'Connor, smith turned him into a 9 but I think 13 is a better fit and I think he'd be better there than smith at the minute so the halves are expected to dictate play more.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Mon Jul 15, 2024 6:28 pm  

I wouldn’t say Smith turned him into a 9 - he was never going to get in the side past Cam. We needed cover at hooker and he had the right body type and some skill so there you go. One of the most picked players in the side for 2 years nearly.

Now he has bulked up a bit I think loose forward might be back in the frame, but he ultimately lacks size. TNW was picked at 13 for the reserves too.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:40 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I wouldn’t say Smith turned him into a 9 - he was never going to get in the side past Cam. We needed cover at hooker and he had the right body type and some skill so there you go. One of the most picked players in the side for 2 years nearly.

Now he has bulked up a bit I think loose forward might be back in the frame, but he ultimately lacks size. TNW was picked at 13 for the reserves too.

Turned O'connor into a 9 and the rest into headless chickens.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:36 pm  

indeed

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:28 am  

He wasnt a 9 Before smith arrived, then he was a 9. Whatever the reasons smith still turned O'Connor into a 9.