Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:38 pm  

I missed the first 20 as I was at elland road but that was my thought too. we are much faster. more fluent, without smith

Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:46 pm  

Where can I watch the full match and not just hilights?

Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:50 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

I missed the first 20 as I was at elland road but that was my thought too. we are much faster. more fluent, without smith

I wonder if he might stick with Frawley as skipper and go with Smith off the bench next week. Still think Smith can play well under Arthur, but in order to do so, he'll have to simplify and speed up his game.

Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:56 pm  

Well well well didn’t see that coming. BA starting to make a difference imo. I’d keep Frawley as captain

Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:02 pm  

Smith should be interchange prop from now and shouldn’t be first receiver. I’m not convinced JOC is the long them answer at 13 but it was delightful to have some pace there and to seen Frawley and Croft linking up at first/second receiver.

Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:43 pm  

I don`t think BA will leave Smith out so should play him at prop where he can hold on to the ball and maybe get the odd pass out to the supporting player.

Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:50 pm  

Happy with Frawley as captain. I thought Arthur would warm to him when he came in (hence my comment a few weeks back about Arthur making some unpopular decisions - remember most people on here wanted to bin Frawley after a handful of games, unjustly IMO). Otherwise, I thought Miller was the pick of our antipodean signings from this season, followed by Croft. Some nice touches from 'Mommers/Momster' in attack and defence but a bit more hit and miss this week.

I agree with Tad and others that we seem to look more fluent without Cam Smith on the field, and we coped well without the 40-60 tackles he puts in every week. O'Connor seems to bring more energy and intensity, even though I worry he's too small for 13.

Despite some ill discipline early in the game I thought Lisone actually did well as our most senior prop (and I've not been a fan of his this season). Littlewood seems to have a bit more size about him than some of our other forwards which is welcome.

I don't get why Harry Smith is an England player, he's like a dirty version of Paul Deacon... Put Frawley behind that Wigan pack and he'd look even better (after all, Frawley can tackle).

Only downer was seeing Rhyse Martin play so well, we will miss him a lot.

Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:03 am  

christopher wrote:

There’s some on here that having been giving Okedski stick, i think we’ll find out how much we need him on Saturday, no other of our props constantly make over 100metres or play as many minutes.

Perhaps we don't him as much as you suggest

Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:23 am  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Perhaps we don't him as much as you suggest

Sangare 5 carries for 33 yards and 16 tackles so I think Miks place is safe when hes fit!
Our smaller forwards were outstanding suggesting if we can add quality in the prop rotacion and keep Arthur there's hope for the future.

Re: Round 21| Wigan Home : Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:33 am  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

I don't get why Harry Smith is an England player, he's like a dirty version of Paul Deacon... Put Frawley behind that Wigan pack and he'd look even better (after all, Frawley can tackle).

He's not even a SL player. An excellent kicker from hand, when given the time, but offers absolutely nothing otherwise. A glance at the HB stats show it. A poor passer, can't take on the line, poor tackler, no pace to support a break, a cowardly, nasty side. I know what you mean about Deacon, but I think he's a poor version of Matty Smith, and he was gash. Wigan are lost without French in attack and diverting defenders. Anybody would think an ex-Wigan player and coach picked the team.
And I thought the same about Frawley.