Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:01 pm  

DMF wrote:

It's crap.

Couldn't agree more, nothing interesting in there at all. Everyone just watching it and seeing what they want to believe. Pointing to the speech by Martin and Smith as a failure of Rohan Smith; they're senior players I'd expect them to be making speeches.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:11 pm  

So you think a senior pro, going so openly and vocally against what the coach is saying in the dressing room after another thumping defeat is a rousing approval of the coaches tactics and appraisal of performance?

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:17 pm  

MrPotatoHead wrote:

Couldn't agree more, nothing interesting in there at all. Everyone just watching it and seeing what they want to believe. Pointing to the speech by Martin and Smith as a failure of Rohan Smith; they're senior players I'd expect them to be making speeches.

It's far more interesting than watching a winning team. Looking forward to the episodes with Arthur for comparison. Will give us a good insight into next season.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:00 am  

I'd argue that even the most ardent Rohan fans will watch that and say he looked lost.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:31 am  

Fascinating watch, and I'm assuming it will be the most interesting of the series.

In many ways, it does confirm a lot of things. RS doesn't seem too bad when things are on the up, and there's decent performances. I wouldn't say anyone watched episode 1 and thought he looks completely incompetent.

As displayed in episode 2, he just didn't have any ability galvanise the team and pull them out of a hole. In fact, he seemed too pre-occupied on trying to be positive than making players accountable.

I think strong teams need to have key players and coaches that players want to play for. We seemed to be lacking a bit of both under RS. We need the players to step up next season in this regard too.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:16 pm  

MrPotatoHead wrote:

Couldn't agree more, nothing interesting in there at all. Everyone just watching it and seeing what they want to believe. Pointing to the speech by Martin and Smith as a failure of Rohan Smith; they're senior players I'd expect them to be making speeches.

What would you want to see included?

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:57 am  

Something actually interesting that we haven't seen before. It's a behind the scenes documentary - why didn't they show us the conversations around Rohans departure between those involved and the subsequent search for a new coach for instance.

A real missed opportunity. I can see why they didn't want to show all, which in my opinion is an enormous miss, but other sports such as football, have really given a true behind the scenes reflection of how clubs operate over a season. I don't think, as Leeds fans, we have particularly learned much from the first two episodes.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:13 am  

exiledrhino wrote:

Fascinating watch, and I'm assuming it will be the most interesting of the series.

In many ways, it does confirm a lot of things. RS doesn't seem too bad when things are on the up, and there's decent performances. I wouldn't say anyone watched episode 1 and thought he looks completely incompetent.

As displayed in episode 2, he just didn't have any ability galvanise the team and pull them out of a hole. In fact, he seemed too pre-occupied on trying to be positive than making players accountable.

I think strong teams need to have key players and coaches that players want to play for. We seemed to be lacking a bit of both under RS. We need the players to step up next season in this regard too.

I can remember watching some footage of Rohan talking to the team at half time when they were losing and i was really shocked at how poor he came across when trying to motivate the team, he was really odd in the way he was delivering his message and just didn't expect it.. i thought he'd be much tougher.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:21 pm  

Yeah overall the documentary has been rather disappointing. It’s largely just an extended rehash of the behind the scenes that they put on YouTube. Most of the successful behind the scenes documentaries have had real behind the scenes conversations like what happens in the managers office. It’s fine for a freebie with membership but i did expect more.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:23 am  

Such emotion from Martin when speaking to his team mates at the end of the KR game. He was a fantastic player for us. He will be remembered very very fondly.