: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:46 am  

jimmyv001 wrote:

he has been included in the 19 man squad but i reckon they will rest him for another week to make sure he is fully fit

Thanks for that, it's just with some saying that Gibson will be up against Atkins I though i'd missed that Webb had been withdrawn from the squad.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:48 am  

Austin 3:16 wrote:

Thanks for that, it's just with some saying that Gibson will be up against Atkins I though i'd missed that Webb had been withdrawn from the squad.

Either way be it Smith or Gibson they could have their hands full tonight.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:49 am  

thebloodbath wrote:

But the no skill zone i dont agree with at all. His strength is his power game, but he runs good lines and uses nice footwork to assist him to power through.

He has zero try assists this season.

Zero.

Even allowing for the inconsistencies of OPTAs statistical analysis, that's scary given one of the main jobs of a centre is to create tries for his winger.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:53 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

He has zero try assists this season.

Zero.

Even allowing for the inconsistencies of OPTAs statistical analysis, that's scary given one of the main jobs of a centre is to create tries for his winger.

He doesn't pass, he tries to run over defenders. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.

Still a good player though.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:56 am  

charlie wrote:

He doesn't pass, he tries to run over defenders. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.

That much was obvious in the England game - I said before it that Hall wouldn't get a pass off him all night. Might work against hugely inferior opposition, but you need a lot more to your game at the very highest level.

Playing outside Atkins is a death sentence for a winger's career, you just don't see the ball.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:57 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

He has zero try assists this season.

Zero.

Even allowing for the inconsistencies of OPTAs statistical analysis, that's scary given one of the main jobs of a centre is to create tries for his winger.

who plays on his wing is it sideshow maybe thats why he hasnt been scoring

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:01 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

He has zero try assists this season.

Zero.

Even allowing for the inconsistencies of OPTAs statistical analysis, that's scary given one of the main jobs of a centre is to create tries for his winger.

He'll do fine with Donald then.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:14 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

If this doesn't say " for god sake come and sign me" I don't know what does!!

How do you make that out, he's on about a player not the club - get a grip. Tell you know Atkins is NOT Leeds bound.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:15 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

If this doesn't say " for god sake come and sign me" I don't know what does!!

Then you don't know what does then.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:18 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

He has zero try assists this season.

Zero.

Even allowing for the inconsistencies of OPTAs statistical analysis, that's scary given one of the main jobs of a centre is to create tries for his winger.

On one of sky's televised games Ryan made a superb break and stepped two or three players before offloading to Luke George who scored under the posts, is that not a try assist? Therefore OPTA and their statistics have proved to be incorrect.

I don't want to be seen as pushing the case for Leeds to sign Ryan Atkins but he certainly does have decent hands but he can improve. As has already been said he has good footwork in front of the line and this helps his power game when busting tackles. You rarely see him brought to ground quickly or by one defender.

Ryan is still in his very early 20s and is IMO ahead of Ashley Gibson or any other Leeds three-quarter with the exception of Senior.

I hope he stays with Wakefield Trinity but in the long-term unless Wakefield can secure the new stadium and become contenders I don't see Ryan Atkins spending his whole career with the Wildcats.