My surprise team is Hull KR

Think they might suffer from second season syndrome and just finish in the top 6

I think we will come 3rd or 4th.

Oh Chris , You are not a glass half full person , yours is always full to the top .

With the average signings we have made then i very much doubt we can finish above any of the below

Wigan
hull K.R
Wire
Saints

then just maybe we could be in a fight for fifth but i would sway towards Catalan or Leigh before us

Your Surprise would not just be a surprise it would be a miracle

Bring back Rohan

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Well, we will find out won’t we!

We were terrible last year and finished 4 points off 4th place.

Hull KR dropping off from last year would be a miracle? Not really it’s happened to many teams before and it will again.

A decent measure of progress would be how many games we play. The last two years we gave taken part in the minimum possible - 28 - and looked knackered. If we are the 32/33 mark at the end of the season we will have come along way.

Yet we were never realistically going to make the top 6, particularly with the last 2 games we had.

I think we'll be in a decent scrap for the 5th to 8th places this year.
That will show a small amount of progress.
But the real measure of success will be where we finish in those 4 places....
5th will be a good season, 8th will be another disaster.

I'd expect us to win some of the close games that in the last few years we have lost. We will still lose to the top clubs, Wigan, HKR, Warrington, and probably Catalans and Saints at their grounds, but we will do enough to finish between 4-6th.

A lot can depend on the ridiculous extra fixtures. Last year we had the benefit of playing the bottom two teams in Superleague three times and a very poor Catalans team that didn’t travel well three times including two games at Headingley. At the moment playing Cas 3 times looks like a potential benefit but I don’t think anyone can guess whether playing Wakey 3 times will be to our advantage or not.

Any less than top 4 is simply not good enough. Calling HKR and Warrington top clubs, above us is an insult to what we have achieved in the Sl era.

Anything less than competing for the 3 trophies available is failure.

I don't know what to expect anymore. We might not have the best team but if Leeds can collectively show more hunger to work hard to win every week, I'll be happy. Players need to strive to improve as individuals and as a team. Hopefully they buy-in to what Arthur wants this season.

An insult? Keep your knickers on, they are much better than we have been for the last few years. I didn't realise that we were still playing SL from 10 years ago when we were decent.

Agreed that anything less than a top 4 finish is a failure. A top 3 finish would show we are moving in the right direction.

No wonder other fans call us entitled whinos!