: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:30 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

No need to feel ashamed mate its just our pay back for the MM robbery.....

Well we WAS robbed at MM, but 2 wrongs dont make a right & the MM decision was so obviously a mistake, whereas the Video ref & official last night had a chance to make the right decision & they seemed determined to make us Bulls win & give 50/50 calls to us.

Its ok by me as a supporter, but it makes our sport a bit of a joke if we have to depend on Referee decisions in order to have "talking points".

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:40 pm  

harigeorgeson wrote:

Well we WAS robbed at MM, but 2 wrongs dont make a right & the MM decision was so obviously a mistake, whereas the Video ref & official last night had a chance to make the right decision & they seemed determined to make us Bulls win & give 50/50 calls to us.

Absolute and utter twaddle and you know it! Teddy out of cot cos your lover Deacon was not playing!

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:44 pm  

Wonder if Bluey requests that Smith be banned from Headingley? The precedent was set last year with the Scousers obtaining a ban.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:46 pm  

Longun wrote:

Wonder if Bluey requests that Smith be banned from Headingley? The precedent was set last year with the Scousers obtaining a ban.

I'd ban all referees and the sooner the better.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:49 pm  

tvoc wrote:

I'd ban all referees and the sooner the better.

How would that work? You'd have Leon Pryce running all round the pitch openly twatttting everyone and fondling their bollox!!

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:55 pm  

Longun wrote:

:) How would that work? You'd have Leon Pryce running all round the pitch openly twatttting everyone and fondling their bollox!!

I'd replace them with fans of the away side. It'd be a scream.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:27 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

Here is a question for the referees on this forum.

Hanley was "offside" many times in his career according to yesterdays ruling.

He would play the ball after being tackled and rather than retire would immediately move down field to wards the opponents tryline.

The attack would break the line and he would then be in a position to recieve the ball and score.

AFAIAA he was NEVER penalised for this but according to this recent ruling on the Webb incident Hanley was always OFFSIDE or rather not elegible to recieve the ball.

Everyone excluding the player playing the ball and the acting half back, as he would have been playing the ball he would never have been offside in those occasions Webb was not playing the ball or acting half back and as a result offside

As quoted here:

RL Rules wrote:

Section 11 The Tackle & The Play The Ball

Retire at play the ball

10 (g) players of the side not in possession other than the-ball the player taking part in the play-the-ball and the acting half back are out of play if they fail to retire ten (10) metres from the point at which the ball is played or to their own goal lines. Players of the side in possession other than the player taking part in the play-the-ball and the acting halfback must retire behind their players involved in the play-the-ball or to their own goal line.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:59 pm  

Tvoc and King Monkey are right. Outstanding spot by Ian Smith, well done the officials on that one. I'd argue with KM though that Webb is offside until he gets behind the play the ball. I don't buy any of the 'attempting to get back' business. You're either offside or you're not. Webb was out of the play, until the next play the ball, which he would have been able to get behind.
I cannot remember any occurence of someone coming from infront of their own play the ball to support, although I'm sure it's probably happened on rare occasions. It can only happen in 2 sitiuations (mostly).

1. As last night, support runner goes through, doesn't recieve it, starts infront of his own play the ball.

2. Fullback returns kick and is tackled. Winger picks up from dummy half and breaks the line. Players that have failed to retreat onside support.

(Remember that it's different if a fullback or winger breaks the line straight from a kick)

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:14 am  

DISA wrote:

Seriously if people really do not think that this will happen at all games, then they wont be looking. Lets look for the offence on Monday.

I've just put your theory to the test.

I've just finished watching The Sharks V The Raiders from Saturday's games in the NRL via Setanta. Not once did a player on kick return or after tackle one pass the ball to a retreating forward who hadn't got back behind where the PTB took place.

Not once.

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:25 am  

tvoc wrote:

I've just put your theory to the test.

I've just finished watching The Sharks V The Raiders from Saturday's games in the NRL via Setanta. Not once did a player on kick return or after tackle one pass the ball to a retreating forward who hadn't got back behind where the PTB took place.

Not once.

Not once?