Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:31 pm  

I`m really not sure what to make of the game last night.
One or two poor calls by the ref and TJ`s and whilst we looked poor in parts we looked ok in others.
Either that or Warrington are not as good as their league position says.
I tipped Wigan to win the treble and haven`t seen anything from any other team to make me eat my words.
Miller needs to take a leaf out of Dufty`s book and follow the break.
Croft trying his best along with McDonnell.
Fusi and Mom nowhere near good enough.
Eseh trying too hard and making the odd mistake.
Sinfield needs games but agree Frawley`s defence is much better.
O`Connor playing with fight and determination that the rest of the pack should follow.
Personally I would play Smith at prop instead of Goudemand and let O`Connor play loose or possibly Frawley.
At least we have Prince Harry back next week to take McCormacks place!

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:49 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Isn't that what the forwards are for - the clue is in the name. Otherwise what are they there for - just tackling? Their job is to get the teams moving forwards the wingers and centres are there to defend out wide but more importantly contribute to the attacking structure of the team. Against London you had props with < 6 carries in a game.

So with the same theory, the backs are their to move the team back?

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:52 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

They have been trying all year mate and largely getting smashed. Either we need different players who can do that kind of job, or we need to change approach - that is my point. Just "running harder" isn't going to change anything is it?

In previous seasons, the Saints backline literally just ran onto the ball at speed, got over the gain line, hit their front, quick ptb and repeat.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:23 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

That's a very over-simplified version of what I meant isn't it? Do you think our current method has been working all season? What would be your suggestion to improve our yardage?

sign Neme and Ryan , they will bring the ball out

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:37 pm  

leedsbarmyarmy wrote:

In previous seasons, the Saints backline literally just ran onto the ball at speed, got over the gain line, hit their front, quick ptb and repeat.

Yes with the likes of Percival and Makinson who are great at that. You can't copy the method with players who don't hit the line like they do.

For what it's worth, Hall will be more effectively than Fus with these carries next season I think, and Handley is OK sometimes. Our centres are rubbish at it and Miller is more of a stepper. Added to the fact we have relatively light back rowers and we get exactly what we see - a consistent failure to establish any momentum up field and a poor platform for the halves to play off.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:41 pm  

The 2 wingers at Wigan and Catalan don`t do bad either at bringing the ball out of their own half.
With Fusi`s size you would think he would do the same.
Too powder puff for me.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:02 pm  

Handley is very good at bringing the ball out from our line. He regularly makes decent post contact metres and if given the space can use his speed to make ground. Fusi is poor, especially for his size. He never breaks a tackle and doesn't have the pace to go around anyone. Its a shame Lumb got injured, he may have been an improvement.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:04 pm  

Alfie edgel is actually pretty good at this especially for his size, runs fearlessly

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:50 pm  

Still think we looked pretty good in patches going forward, all is not lost but… I hope between Blease and BA they can find some solutions to the squad.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:06 pm  

I think Hall will help out with that. Strong runner and should play more often too.