Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:47 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Why does it have to be an actual quote from GH?

It doesn't but it has to be linked to the club, like the quote you've now finally provided below.

The thing is, is that when posters like yourself & Gotcha, who have a very long history of making stuff up, start posting random quotes and stating them as fact then they just can't be taken seriously. The fact that no one on here believes a word you say is your doing and no one else's so to start spitting your dummy out and throwing insults around when you're asked to back something up is just comical.

William Eve wrote:

A club statement released on 23 Nov 2016 at 10:50am which said, and I quote... Leeds Rhinos Chief Executive Gary Hetherington has confirmed that James Segeyaro will remain at the club and is looking forward to next season with the Rhinos.

In light of what the CEO has now said, the above statement on 23 Nov was patently a fabrication.

Feel free to pay another visit to your barn.

OK, so he did say that Segeyaro was looking forward to returning. See, it's not hard to provide quotes or links when you're telling the truth, you should try it more in the future.

I wasn't at the meeting but maybe, after GH issued his warnings, that's actually what James or his agent said... even if it was just to get rid of GH so they could go to the beach or whatever.

We'll never know for sure.

....and even if he didn't then what difference does it make to Segeyaro breaking his contract and refusing to come back this season?

I know you like the word straw but it seems like you're really grasping for some with this i'm afraid.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:53 pm  

Maybe Hetherington told Segeyaro that he would have to honour his contract and return to the UK and suggested consequences if that did not happen, Segeyaro along with his agent said Ok in order to buy themselves time. From that Heatherington then had the club release the statement to ensure that the return would be smooth.

The only ones who know are the ones in that room. Not all details have been released and whilst Hetheringtons statement is no seen to be incorrect, Segeyaro has been proven to be not altogether honest in his dealings, and his agents comments that have come to light appear to be even worse.

It is just not black and white that on either party's information and we are all making assumptions based on partial information of a meeting between the two

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:27 pm  

Doesn't really change anything, whatever the truth of what was discussed. We know that both parties are capable of speaking less than honestly; the impasse between them remains as before.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:16 pm  

So what I said on page 100 that seems to have got certain posters with ants in their pants, Loiner81 after posting usual none related arguments, now accepts it did come from the club. So we are back to page 100. Loiner81 would be better off staying away from debates on here, due to the constant failures that just result in bad mouthing,

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:25 pm  

The thead that keeps on (and on and on and on) giving

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:36 pm  

TOMCAT wrote:

The thead that keeps on (and on and on and on) giving

Ryan Bailey will be jealous.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:06 pm  

TOMCAT wrote:

The thead that keeps on (and on and on and on) giving

To sum things up then;

- Some people think the club should just cut ties and let Segeyaro move on (and maybe take action against him personally)
- Some people think the club should hold him to task and let him rot if need be
- Some believe Segeyaro's tale of homesickness, some don't
- Everyone agrees Segeyaro and his manager have acted like tools throughout this whole episode

Hopefully there's a resolution soon - it's doing nobody any favours the longer it drags on. Segeyaro isn't earning and Leeds are starting to look a little bitter and uncompasionate (which could well affect future recruitment from Oz). Time to get it sorted one way or another.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:11 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

So what I said on page 100 that seems to have got certain posters with ants in their pants, Loiner81 after posting usual none related arguments, now accepts it did come from the club. So we are back to page 100. Loiner81 would be better off staying away from debates on here, due to the constant failures that just result in bad mouthing,

Whilst it did come from the club, there is no proof that they were lying at that time. There was a meeting, the outcome of which no one on this board knows. We do understand that GH advised JS and his agent of the consequences of not returning. What JS and his agent said no one knows, but he's had a history of making statements that suit him at the time, and some of his agents statements, that I have seen posted on here are off the wall.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:22 pm  

Superted wrote:

Hopefully there's a resolution soon - it's doing nobody any favours the longer it drags on. Segeyaro isn't earning and Leeds are starting to look a little bitter and uncompasionate (which could well affect future recruitment from Oz). Time to get it sorted one way or another.

Isn't earning??? Come on let's not pretend Cromulla won't be looking after the guy financially with him training with them.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:43 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

It doesn't but it has to be linked to the club, like the quote you've now finally provided below.

So when you posted GH's quotation earlier, which I assume you obtained from an official source linked to the club, why did you omit any mention of the following... "Leeds Rhinos Chief Executive Gary Hetherington has confirmed that James Segeyaro will remain at the club and is looking forward to next season with the Rhino"... and furthermore, why did you insist that Gotcha had to provide an actual quote from GH?

loiner81 wrote:

The thing is, is that when posters like yourself & Gotcha, who have a very long history of making stuff up, start posting random quotes and stating them as fact then they just can't be taken seriously. The fact that no one on here believes a word you say is your doing and no one else's so to start spitting your dummy out and throwing insults around when you're asked to back something up is just comical.

Constructing your straw men and knocking them down does not equate to anyone else making stuff up... apart from you of course. As for throwing insults around, did Donald Trump tell you to say that?

loiner81 wrote:

OK, so he did say that Segeyaro was looking forward to returning. See, it's not hard to provide quotes or links when you're telling the truth, you should try it more in the future.

Which still begs the question as to why you demanded from Gotcha an actual quotation from the CEO?

loiner81 wrote:

I wasn't at the meeting but maybe, after GH issued his warnings, that's actually what James or his agent said... even if it was just to get rid of GH so they could go to the beach or whatever. We'll never know for sure.

Translation: The source and veracity of evidence which I demand from others (in this case Gotcha) does not apply to me.

loiner81 wrote:

....and even if he didn't then what difference does it make to Segeyaro breaking his contract and refusing to come back this season?

No difference at all to anyone who is comfortable dealing with someone skilled in fabrication, smoke & mirrors and the darkest of arts. Unfortunately, on this occasion, the CEO has not covered himself in any glory. I expect none of this will have gone unnoticed down under and may play a significant role in future NRL players turning Leeds down, and who could blame them?

loiner81 wrote:

I know you like the word straw but it seems like you're really grasping for some with this i'm afraid.

An apology to Gotcha seems in order.

Whenever you are ready?