Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 24, 2015 5:31 pm  

Simple is something you seem to have a very good grasp of.

But thanks for telling me what I was and wasn't thinking, when pointing out that if Leeds continued to play badly they probably wouldn't maintain what had come down to a two point gap at the top of the table.

I wouldn't give up your day job to take up that career in psychoanalysis just yet. Bit more work needed.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 24, 2015 5:47 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Simple is something you seem to have a very good grasp of.

But thanks for telling me what I was and wasn't thinking, when pointing out that if Leeds continued to play badly they probably wouldn't maintain what had come down to a two point gap at the top of the table.

I wouldn't give up your day job to take up that career in psychoanalysis just yet. Bit more work needed.

Really? Reminding you of what you wrote a few pages ago is psychoanalysis? Ok then.

That you pretend you didn't and are too stubborn to admit you did is only making yourself look foolish and no one else.

You panicked and feared we could end up outside the top 4, end of.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon May 25, 2015 5:23 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

Really? Reminding you of what you wrote a few pages ago is psychoanalysis? Ok then.

That you pretend you didn't and are too stubborn to admit you did is only making yourself look foolish and no one else.

You panicked and feared we could end up outside the top 4, end of.

Long way to go yet before the top four is sorted out. Injuries can have a big say in who fills the top spots. You are equally stubborn in your assumption that Leeds will finish in the top 4. You may well be correct but it is far from a done deal.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon May 25, 2015 9:46 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Long way to go yet before the top four is sorted out. Injuries can have a big say in who fills the top spots. You are equally stubborn in your assumption that Leeds will finish in the top 4. You may well be correct but it is far from a done deal.

I've said all along that injuries could be make or break for any of the teams involved including ourselves and even now I know there's always the chance we end up outside the top 4.....but same applies to the Wigan, Hudds, Wire teams that were getting praised for a few good games in a row.

However the difference is I don't base my opinion on what'll happen on just 3 disappointing games. Reality is Hudds away was always going to be one of our toughest games of the year. Disappointing to lose that lead but we still away from a team who've held a good record over us in recent seasons with a draw which could've been a win if Burrow didn't slip with seconds to go and we still put 10 more points on them than what other teams are averaging.

Yes we got done by Warrington, it's happens. Name a season when you don't have a game or two when the opposition nail it and you're a bit off your game.

Widnes no doubt was a poor showing but I think some underestimate how good a side they are at home. Beat Warrington and us at home this season and drew with Wigan with 12 men and pushed Saints hard. Last year Saints, Wire, Wigan and Hudds all lost there. Doubt their showings on those days didn't scream of teams who could contend.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon May 25, 2015 10:19 am  

Yet last year it could be told after the first three poor performances, what the problems were, and how it would effect us. It turned out correct.

FWIW I think if we were to beat Wigan on Saturday, which I don't think we will, then I can not see us relinquishing top spot before the eights, regardless of injuries.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon May 25, 2015 10:26 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Yet last year it could be told after the first three poor performances, what the problems were, and how it would effect us. It turned out correct.

FWIW I think if we were to beat Wigan on Saturday, which I don't think we will, then I can not see us relinquishing top spot before the eights, regardless of injuries.

I think if Wigan beat us on Saturday then they need to back it up afterwards. The next 4 weeks after that feature away games vs Saints, Hudds and Wire. Going by current away form it's hard to see them picking up much (if any) points from those. At least 4pts from a possible 6 is needed to make any Magic weekend win count. If they do well in those games then it still works out ok for us in one way as other top 4 teams will have dropped points.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue May 26, 2015 9:51 am  

Some quality back tracking and goal post shifting on this thread just recently!

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 12:16 am  

I think Mr McDermott deserves some criticism for losing to such a mediocre Wigan outfit.

Possibly the worst Pie side for around a decade....and they still easily beat the 'Rhinos'.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 5:53 am  

Bruce_Forsyth wrote:

I think Mr McDermott deserves some criticism for losing to such a mediocre Wigan outfit.

Possibly the worst Pie side for around a decade....and they still easily beat the 'Rhinos'.

One game in isolation you should never use as a measurement. So if it was last night alone you wouldn't go so far, although those tactics last night were poor indeed.

What is more important is how many games. It's a year since the last Magic weekend against Wigan. Our form over that 12 months, is probably on a par with an Hull FC, Widnes. That is what is unacceptable.

Some posters get their knickers in a twist when critisism is levelled at MCDermott, and the line always trotted out is that the poor performances are in the minority. But they are not, the poor performances are the norm, and that seems to get lost in arguments.

What should be argued more is the reason for those poor performances, is it purely MCDermott or is it the options he has available due to poor planning?

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 8:29 am  

I have said on another thread that I don't think Leeds can play much better than they have whilst some other teams have another gear once they get all their troops firing. Leeds are more fun to watch this year the constant off loading is great but the fundamental problems i.e. lack of attacking structure that have dogged McDermott his whole Leeds career still exist. You may well be correct in that he can only coach the players he is given - he plight isn't helped by having half a side that is well passed its best.