Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 11:47 am  

Clearwing wrote:

That said, my concern is that the magic weekend could easily be our side's biggest game this year, as indeed it could have in each of the last 3 seasons, in terms of occasion and attendance. It's a big concern to me that each time we've failed to perform at the required level. That suggests to me that should we even get to a final we may be more likely to lose it than we are to win it. I think that edge has now gone.

Good point, but you seem to have forgotten we won at Wembley last season, in a final and in front of our biggest crowd of the year. Much bigger than Magic Weekend and with more to play for than 2 league points. We didn't just win, we comprehensively out played our opponents on every level. Just as we did again Warrington in the semi.

We've already destroyed Hudds in the cup this season, which was much more important than 2 league points in Newcastle.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 12:05 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

Good point, but you seem to have forgotten we won at Wembley last season, in a final and in front of our biggest crowd of the year. Much bigger than Magic Weekend and with more to play for than 2 league points. We didn't just win, we comprehensively out played our opponents on every level. Just as we did again Warrington in the semi.

We've already destroyed Hudds in the cup this season, which was much more important than 2 league points in Newcastle.

I'd not forgotten Wembley but I do think we might well have lost against a different opponent - as happened at last year's MW.

As for Hudds, let's see how we fare at Hull before deciding on the value of that result.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 2:08 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

I'd not forgotten Wembley but I do think we might well have lost against a different opponent - as happened at last year's MW.

You did forget to mention though, whilst writing off the last couple of years. Cas beat Wigan en route, we beat Wire. No one was going to beat Leeds last year at Wembley.

Clearwing wrote:

As for Hudds, let's see how we fare at Hull before deciding on the value of that result.

So if Hull knock us out, which is a possibility considering their current form, that somehow lessons our performance against Hudds ?

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Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 2:13 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

The difference is some teams are getting stronger - Wigan, Huddersfield and Warrington whilst some appear to be weakening Leeds & Saints

Serious question - Are we still including Hudds as one of these improving teams that Leeds need to fear? Or, after their recent results, are we now writing them off?

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 4:28 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

Serious question - Are we still including Hudds as one of these improving teams that Leeds need to fear? Or, after their recent results, are we now writing them off?

In the last 6 rounds Huddersfield have dropped 2 points so I would suggest they are on an upward curve - in the same period Leeds have dropped 7 points - logic suggests one team is improving and the other is not. I appreciate that doesn't fit with your "All is fine and dandy at Leeds" but they are the facts.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 4:48 pm  

you have to look at who they've played sal. they were poor today.looked very short on cohesion and confidence

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 5:25 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

Wigan slowed us down at the ptb and we ended up playing the game on their terms. The big worry for me is that that was all they needed to do.

It's the same thing week in week out with McDermott as he can't read a game. If Plan A doesn't work there's no Plan B never has been and never will be!
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Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 5:30 pm  

Since last year's magic weekend game in Super League fixtures Leeds have won 16 games, lost 14 and drawn 2.

Not sure what that means, if anything, and it's not as dreadful as some make out but neither is it awe inspiring. I don't usually agree with the pessimists but it's not great.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 5:35 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

you have to look at who they've played sal. they were poor today.looked very short on cohesion and confidence

They were terrible. Sal also "forgot" to mention that they got walloped out of the cup by a team of shackleton high seat loving pensioners, with no hunger, on the decline.....

Wigan got well beaten in the cup by an injury ravaged bottom 4 club before getting absolutely battered in France by a mid-table team. I can guarantee no one wrote them off on here in the way Leeds get written off after a defeat.

Seems like it's one rule for one team and different rules for others around here.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 5:37 pm  

G1 wrote:

Since last year's magic weekend game in Super League fixtures Leeds have won 16 games, lost 14 and drawn 2.

Not sure what that means, if anything, and it's not as dreadful as some make out but neither is it awe inspiring. I don't usually agree with the pessimists but it's not great.

And yet, they're top of the league with only 4 defeats and the best attack in SL this year.