Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 5:44 pm  

Huddersfield's last 6 games:
Catalans x2
Castleford
Hull FC
Salford
Leeds

Leeds last 6 games:
Wigan
Hull KR
Widnes
Huddersfield
Warrington
St Helens

To compare the 2 as indicators of some kind of form is a bit pointless. If we'd played Huddersfield today, putting in the same performance as we did against Wigan, we'd have won. Conversely if Huddersfield had played Wigan they'd have lost.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 5:46 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

And yet, they're top of the league with only 4 defeats and the best attack in SL this year.

They are indeed right now, at the end of May. Let's hope they remain there in September. To do so their form over the next four months will have to improve dramatically to the form they've been in over the last 12 months.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 6:29 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

you have to look at who they've played sal. they were poor today.looked very short on cohesion and confidence

True but you could hardly say Leeds looked high on cohesion and confidence?

In the last six weeks they have played Catalans x 2, Leeds, Castleford, Salford and Hull of which only 2 were at home.

Next week they play Wigan so that should be an interesting game and a test of where they are currently at.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 6:36 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

And yet, they're top of the league with only 4 defeats and the best attack in SL this year.

A loss ratio of 25% add to the worst defence of any of the top five sides. We can all make the stats work in our favour.

Leeds should remain on top for the next two weeks - Wakey will not be a game and I cannot see Cas providing a real test at Headingley.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 6:40 pm  

Him wrote:

Huddersfield's last 6 games:
Catalans x2
Castleford
Hull FC
Salford
Leeds

Leeds last 6 games:
Wigan
Hull KR
Widnes
Huddersfield
Warrington
St Helens

To compare the 2 as indicators of some kind of form is a bit pointless. If we'd played Huddersfield today, putting in the same performance as we did against Wigan, we'd have won. Conversely if Huddersfield had played Wigan they'd have lost.

How can you say that its hypothetical nonsense.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 6:47 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

So if Hull knock us out, which is a possibility considering their current form, that somehow lessons our performance against Hudds ?

I love this place

Not the performance, no. But you referred to the importance of the result. Which will be precisely zilch should we lose at Hull.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 6:55 pm  

Him wrote:

Huddersfield's last 6 games:
Catalans x2
Castleford
Hull FC
Salford
Leeds

Leeds last 6 games:
Wigan
Hull KR
Widnes
Huddersfield
Warrington
St Helens

To compare the 2 as indicators of some kind of form is a bit pointless. If we'd played Huddersfield today, putting in the same performance as we did against Wigan, we'd have won. Conversely if Huddersfield had played Wigan they'd have lost.

No bloody comfort for me

I had you lot at scratch to beat the Pies and Cats at +2. Over the weekend, it was only Leeds who cost me a £480 acca

Promise me you'll buck up (but leave it 'til after the Challenge Cup please)

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 7:02 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

That said, my concern is that the magic weekend could easily be our side's biggest game this year, as indeed it could have in each of the last 3 seasons, in terms of occasion and attendance. It's a big concern to me that each time we've failed to perform at the required level. That suggests to me that should we even get to a final we may be more likely to lose it than we are to win it. I think that edge has now gone.

Difference is, if we reach a final we'll be treating as such. Think one of our biggest problems we've had with Magic Weekend lately is that we treat it as just another league game and Wigan approach it almost like a cup or playoff game. If we approached yesterday like we did the Hudds cup game then it would've been a different match.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 7:06 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Difference is, if we reach a final we'll be treating as such. Think one of our biggest problems we've had with Magic Weekend lately is that we treat it as just another league game and Wigan approach it almost like a cup or playoff game. If we approached yesterday like we did the Hudds cup game then it would've been a different match.

What evidence have you for your assertion above?
Or is it solely based on how you perceive that we played compared to how Wigan played?

PS I don't intend to get into a pointless debate with you on this.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun May 31, 2015 7:11 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Difference is, if we reach a final we'll be treating as such. Think one of our biggest problems we've had with Magic Weekend lately is that we treat it as just another league game and Wigan approach it almost like a cup or playoff game. If we approached yesterday like we did the Hudds cup game then it would've been a different match.

We would also have needed Wigan to play as bad as Huddersfield did on the day - some on here are reading a lot into the Huddersfield game yet are prepared to write off a poor Leeds performance say against Warrington - you can't have it both ways.

Wigan dominated Leeds in the forwards as did Warrington with very similar outcomes. I think you idea that Leeds didn't take it seriously is clutching at straws as was your comment about Bentham.