Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:27 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Leeds were playing some attractive rugby

Careful now, you'll do yourself an injury.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:05 am  

loiner81 wrote:

You mean this?

Wasn't me who brought up that bet and it also wasn't me who disappeared when I offered to take him up on it....

I don't bet.

The question was whether you had money on it, not whether you wanted to make a bet on it with me. Not my fault your comprehension skills are lacking.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:43 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

I don't bet.

Not surprised!

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:57 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Yes you were offering a bet - who is backtracking now!! Suggest you revisit your posts ?

Saints injuries have been far worse than ours so let's not get on that hobby horse - nobody is backtracking Leeds were playing some attractive rugby and were in a good position. Unlike you who thought it would go on forever some of us knew it couldn't - that is just realism. The standard of play at the moment is poor, even you have to admit that - you cannot keep saying all is OK when it quite clearly isn't.

We are just polarised in our opinions. You are entitled to your view but it is no more valid that mine.

Injury lists aren't always about how many are injured but which ones. In 2010 we had 3 players missing at the end of the season which isn't a huge number, but two of those were Pescock and McGuire so it was as significant than having 5/6 other guys out.

Saints have got injuries but crucially not to Roby, Amor and Wamsley. They can get by losing a few backs because that's not the key to their teams chances. If we're to be successful we need our starting back 5. You don't have most neutrals calling them the best back 5 in the competition and then not get impacted when you're missing a few of them for periods of time.

The other point you and a few others keep going on about. Nobody is actually the performances have been good of late or that everything is ok at present.....difference is some of us haven't thrown the towel in and decided we'll play this way every week up until Round 30.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:12 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

The other point you and a few others keep going on about. Nobody is actually the performances have been good of late or that everything is ok at present.....difference is some of us haven't thrown the towel in and decided we'll play this way every week up until Round 30.

I am not convinced that has happened the other way either. It's just that if anybody comments on what they have just seen and it is criticism, the usual come out changing it to some other view. For some reason you are a doom mongerer purely for criticising (and rightfully) a performance just watched.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:50 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

I don't bet.

The question was whether you had money on it, not whether you wanted to make a bet on it with me. Not my fault your comprehension skills are lacking.

I know what the question was and the underlying tone of your post was very clear too which is why I responded the way I did.
I suggest you need to brush up on your own comprehension skills..

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:37 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

It's just that if anybody comments on what they have just seen and it is criticism, the usual come out changing it to some other view.

And if people comment on what they've seen and aren't overally/not critical then the usual come charging out at them too.

I didn't realise the term "doom mongers" would've upset people so much. But come on now let's not pretend its all one way traffic with the 'positive' ones 'attacking' the 'negative' ones and nothing going the other way in return. For every "doom monger" or "glass half empty" their has been a "rose-tinted" or "blind loyalty" aimed at someone whose view is contradictory to certain posters.

The doom mongers term isn't even being used in relation to peoples view on the games that we've played, it's in relation to their view regarding the future. It seems that when thinking about how our season will unfold they only seem to look at the defeats to come to their conclusion (which then inevitably spells doom for the team). When it's pointed out the games that we've won as a pointer to what we could achieve this year their are posters who often put the main reasoning down to our wins as chiefly because the opposition played poor.

Leeds beat Hudds in the cup....."yeah but only because Hudds were so poor"
Leeds beat Saints away comfortably....."yeah but only because Saints were so poor"
Leeds beat Wigan at home....."yeah but only because Wigan were so poor"

"They'll all up their game and beat us!"

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:45 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

I know what the question was and the underlying tone of your post was very clear too which is why I responded the way I did.
I suggest you need to brush up on your own comprehension skills..

Aye, I can't comprehend what I typed, but you can tell the underlying tone of it.

Want a rear-view mirror for that backtrack?

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:56 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Aye, I can't comprehend what I typed, but you can tell the underlying tone of it.

Want a rear-view mirror for that backtrack?

Like I said, time to brush up on your comprehension skills, then re-read my last post.

And I don't backtrack like some (you, often). I'll happily admit to being wrong, on the rare occasion it happens.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:04 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Injury lists aren't always about how many are injured but which ones. In 2010 we had 3 players missing at the end of the season which isn't a huge number, but two of those were Pescock and McGuire so it was as significant than having 5/6 other guys out.

Saints have got injuries but crucially not to Roby, Amor and Wamsley. They can get by losing a few backs because that's not the key to their teams chances. If we're to be successful we need our starting back 5. You don't have most neutrals calling them the best back 5 in the competition and then not get impacted when you're missing a few of them for periods of time.

The other point you and a few others keep going on about. Nobody is actually the performances have been good of late or that everything is ok at present.....difference is some of us haven't thrown the towel in and decided we'll play this way every week up until Round 30.

Well put and pretty much sums up my take on our little mid season blip, which imo is all it is and why i have refrained from commenting on the numerous doom and gloom threads elsewhere.

I saw more than enough to convince me we are a top side when we field a or close to full strength side like earlier in the year (and i still don't think we put in a complete 80 minutes performance then). Bottom line, far too early to knee jerk.