: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:19 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

He neglected nothing and Bailey was subbed a couple of minutes after Graham came on - indeed before Saints even got the ball back and before Leeds scored their try - so it is imposible for him to have spent "the next ten minutes trying to have a pop at Bailey but massively neglecting the rest of his duties".

What specifically did Graham neglect to do out of interest? He certainly managed to produce the match winning play.

With your definition of "a couple of minutes" and my exaggeration of ten minutes we might meet somewhere in the middle.

Either way he came off the bench with the sole intention of flooring Bailey – in that period he was ineffective.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:26 pm  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

With your definition of "a couple of minutes" and my exaggeration of ten minutes we might meet somewhere in the middle.

Either way he came off the bench with the sole intention of flooring Bailey – in that period he was ineffective.

We didn't have the ball and he didn't miss any tackles!! In fact, when he was called upon to make a tackle he drove Bailey back 10m. In what way was he ineffective? He didn't score an intercept try?

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:39 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

We didn't have the ball and he didn't miss any tackles!! In fact, when he was called upon to make a tackle he drove Bailey back 10m. In what way was he ineffective? He didn't score an intercept try?

When a player’s sole objective and purpose is to isolate a single member of the opposition’s team then their effectiveness is massively diluted.

By the way I don’t recall Graham single-handedly driving Bailey back 10 meters – must have missed that one.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:41 pm  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

When a player’s sole objective and purpose is to isolate a single member of the opposition’s team then their effectiveness is massively diluted.

By the way I don’t recall Graham single-handedly driving Bailey back 10 meters – must have missed that one.

I didn't say he did it single handedly, but I think it's fair to say his effort was very "effective".

Unlike Bailey, who crabbed across the field and got hammered, then got subbed, then came back on as the invisible centre whilst Graham was busy winning the game for Saints

I guess what you're saying is that for 2 or 3 minutes Graham was ineffective, despite Saints not having the ball in that period, except for when he was called upon to tackle effectively, which he did.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:22 pm  

What About The Match Last Season Or Season Before When Kylie Leuluai Owned James Graham All Over The Park With Some Great Hits And Graham Went Hiding Pretty Much For The Rest Of The Game...

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:23 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Anyone who thinks Graham was anything other than excellent on Friday is clueless. He did everything you expect of a prop and plenty more.

I dont expect props to have to be warned on entering the field of play.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:24 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

What specifically did Graham neglect to do out of interest? He certainly managed to produce the match winning play.

Anyone can play the link man.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:24 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

In fact, when he was called upon to make a tackle he drove Bailey back 10m.

Does 3rd man in count?

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:25 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

I didn't say he did it single handedly

HTH

FearTheVee wrote:

he drove Bailey back 10m

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:30 pm  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

By the way I don’t recall Graham single-handedly driving Bailey back 10 meters – must have missed that one.

FearTheVee wrote:

I didn't say he did it single handedly

Just to remind you.

FearTheVee wrote:

In fact, when he was called upon to make a tackle he drove Bailey back 10m.

HTH