Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:14 pm  

Fair enough celebrating the hit if your 2 points down and are going to get a Final chance to win, but I didn't understand why they were that bothered considering the match was gone.

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:32 pm  

Sibbs Rhinos wrote:

Fair enough celebrating the hit if your 2 points down and are going to get a Final chance to win, but I didn't understand why they were that bothered considering the match was gone.

Oh I believe they were bothered about something and it wasnt winning IMHO

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:35 pm  

Lupset_Airport wrote:

Walker came off worse in the initial shoulder impact but the clash of heads did the damage. If it weren't for the head clash Walker would have looked daft.

thats how i saw it. Luke won the collision and his momentum was going forward, the young cas kid was on his ass falling backwards. Had the heads not clashed as they did, Burgess would have been in open space

It was poor technique and a lack of control and i think a good coach will talk to him about that. Not from a discipline point of view but if the kids throws around shots like that more often not the young lad will come off second best

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:50 pm  

Sibbs Rhinos wrote:

Fair enough celebrating the hit if your 2 points down and are going to get a Final chance to win, but I didn't understand why they were that bothered considering the match was gone.

I suppose its a way of getting back at your opponents, and takes away part of the enjoyment of winning.

It wasn't a clever tackle technique and Walker was probably lucky not to get injured too. However it wasn't Illegal, and when the adrenaline is running along with frustration, there's always going to be some disregard for personal safety.

Anyway hope he gets back on the field soon.

And to the people who say it was out of order, THIS ISN'T TIDDLYWINKS, THIS IS RUGBY LEAGUE!!!

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:23 pm  

potentially any tackle in rugby league can cause injury, we've all seen players struggling after fairly innocent tackles like the one on peacock last night
burgess was a case of 2 young players colliding and unluckily for luke he came off worst, if it had been a morley,mcdermott or peacock they might have learnt to lead with the arm and maybe lessen the chances of a head collision

one things for certain , serious or not the leeds lads will queue up to take the pi$$ out of him as soon as he returns to the ground such is the nature of the squad

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:25 pm  

TheseAren'tPaintedOn wrote:

I suppose its a way of getting back at your opponents, and takes away part of the enjoyment of winning.

It wasn't a clever tackle technique and Walker was probably lucky not to get injured too. However it wasn't Illegal, and when the adrenaline is running along with frustration, there's always going to be some disregard for personal safety.

Anyway hope he gets back on the field soon.

And to the people who say it was out of order, THIS ISN'T TIDDLYWINKS, THIS IS RUGBY LEAGUE!!!

I take it reading is not your strong point so I will do my best to repeat the context of my concerns.

I didnt say the hit or the accidental contact was out of order and if you can read my post you will see I conceed its indeed a big boys game.

What was not on was the wardance of delight AFTERWARDS whilst a fellow pro is lying badly injured.

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:27 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

No compalints about the hit or the accidental clash of heads its a tough game and they are all big boys and as I have said karma will have its day.

What I do have a slight beef about is the mindset of some of the Cas players with 10 minutes to go. This was evident in the wardance afterwards whilst a fellow pro is badly injured on the floor. WELL OUT OF ORDER IN MY BOOK.

How often do players celebrate when they make a big hit?? Every single time, this time was no different

Remember a few years ago when Anderson put in a big hit on Danny Tickle and screamed at him while he was on the floor, its the same thing. Adrenaline takes over and last night Walker was the same, although he quickly realised it was serious after Burgess failed to move.

Hope Luke gets well soon, just a shame an accident has caused him to miss the CC final

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:29 pm  

Tbh he just didn't even look like he had control of the hit, his body seemed to relax just before the hit (Walker that is) which resulted in his head flying forwards. Completely accidental.

As for the celebrating afterwards, Leeds are one of the biggest sides for the jumping about and celebrating a big hit, how was the Cas lad to know how injured Burgess was? I think as soon as it became apparent the players stopped celebrating, and I don't see how you could have expected them to act differently. I doubt your team would, and thats not an insult, its just part of the game.

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:53 pm  

casman2 wrote:

How often do players celebrate when they make a big hit?? Every single time, this time was no different

Remember a few years ago when Anderson put in a big hit on Danny Tickle and screamed at him while he was on the floor, its the same thing. Adrenaline takes over and last night Walker was the same, although he quickly realised it was serious after Burgess failed to move.

Hope Luke gets well soon, just a shame an accident has caused him to miss the CC final

No-one is disparaging the reaction of Walker after the initial contact (or any of the Cas player either), most players would have reacted in exactly the same way.

Although it has been discussed to some length on this thread I don’t have an issue with the tackle itself although it’s execution from Walker could have been a little more controlled and Burgess’ positioning a little better.

The issue here is the reaction and continual chanting from a set of fans that have already proven this season that they have little or no regard for opposition players, decency or the law.

This is now what we have come to expect from the Cas ‘faithful’ and TBH should come as no surprise.

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:54 pm  

casman2 wrote:

How often do players celebrate when they make a big hit?? Every single time, this time was no different

Remember a few years ago when Anderson put in a big hit on Danny Tickle and screamed at him while he was on the floor, its the same thing. Adrenaline takes over and last night Walker was the same, although he quickly realised it was serious after Burgess failed to move.

Hope Luke gets well soon, just a shame an accident has caused him to miss the CC final

Yes back slapping and high fives etc for a good try saving tackle or forcing an error is now part of the modern game but not jumping and celebrating when there was clearly a very huge problem with Burgess.

But to be fair I will watch the incident again in the cold light of day so to speak.