Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:45 am  

heisenberg wrote:

Jeez. Who cares. Watch the news there's bigger problems out there. Things are said in the heat of the moment. Clearly Zak isn't a homophobe, he has 2 earrings FFS!

Fit young guy, hot body, tattoos, earrings, trendy haircut, fashionable clothes, takes pride in his appearance and now alleged to have used a homophobic slur?

What's the American for wardrobe?

Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:27 am  

I have a couple of gay friends, so I asked one of them if he would be really offended if someone called him a faggot - he responded by singing the Gloria Gaynor classic 'I am what I am' (true story).

Has anyone really gone out and asked the gay community if they find the word 'faggot' offensive? Because all the gays I know really couldn't give fekk.

Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:41 am  

Fat Boy wrote:

I have a couple of gay friends.

Of course you do.

Guffaw.

Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:58 am  

I'm not homophobic. I like Elton John and everything.

Manly regards

Vladimir Putin

Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:27 am  

If this ever goes to court, those videos Zak made with Josh Charnley would be the first item for the defence.

Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:54 am  

Somewhere there will be an episode of Southpark that deals with this scenario.

Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:22 am  

When pressure and or frustration get the better of a person, they will on occasion lash out verbally (or physically). If the response to the situation is verbal, it quite often takes the form of a word or words designed to shock or distress the intended recipient. It is also common to shout out in a similar manner at ones self, when frustrated. Is this acceptable? IMO it is not. Is it a hanging offence? Again IMO it is not. I do however think that we need to be wary as a society of jumping to take offence at every outburst made in a pressurised situation by a daft individual who failed to check an overspill of emotions. Motive and context need to be factored into the equation. IF Zak did make unacceptable comments, I trust that the RFL will take appropriate action.

Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:27 am  

cod'ead wrote:

Well it's not such a big secret that I'm bisexual and spend a lot of time with transpeople, so although I personally wouldn't be bothered if anyone called me a faggot, I do know a lot of people who would be upset. If such insults were thrown in my direction (as has happened on occasion in the past), I have a couple of options open to me: I can ignore the commenter, I can get upset and complain or I can lamp him/her. In the past, options one and three have usually been favoured.

Spending the amount of time that I do in the company of and in contact with transpeople, I'd suggest that the figure of 1.5% non-heterosexual is a vast understatement. I never cease to be amazed at the number of guys who engage in sexual activity with transpeople and yet insist that they are "straight". I think getting an accurate fix on the number of non-heterosexual people is fraught with difficulty, simply because of the reluctance of many people to be honest in their answers for fear of peer pressure or that their partner or spouse may find out.

As to Hardaker: Did his alleged comments upset me? - no, why should they?
Is he a daft lad? - Undoubtedly yes
Should he face suspension? - Couldn't give a toss, it just may send a message but wouldn't make a ha'porth of difference in the great scheme of things.

Cheers Codhead. I applaud, and respect your straightforward and honest reply, which may just give all those posters who are working themselves up into a self rightous froth, something to ponder on.

Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:30 am  

Fat Boy wrote:

I have a couple of gay friends, so I asked one of them if he would be really offended if someone called him a faggot - he responded by singing the Gloria Gaynor classic 'I am what I am' (true story).

Has anyone really gone out and asked the gay community if they find the word 'faggot' offensive? Because all the gays I know really couldn't give fekk.

I should also like to admitting I collected Golliwog badges as a kid......

Re: Zak in trouble? : Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:54 am  

and a lot of those frothing at the mouth are the same ones chanting the refs a cheating c*nt from the terraces