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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:43 pm  
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Its going to take time to be able to play full games like the first half. Until it becomes second nature and just the way we play we will continue to lapse into bad habits.

Couple of things for me. We will make mistakes, all teams do, and cutting out utterly stupid ones will obviously help. But we need to react better when we make them. Secondly we really look too light up front due to the forward rotation we have. There are times when simple size and strength makes life easier for everyone. Coming out of defensive positions is one thing, but our lack of genuine threat from big forwards near the line makes it hard for us to break defences because they know they don't need to throw multiple defenders into the middle. They can keep well spread, which makes it difficult for the backs when facing a defensive line with all 13 players in it. Contrast with how teams have to defend against Walmsley and co


Hopefully Lisone coming back will help hes been a big miss for the last 3 games imo
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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:46 pm  
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Agreed but I would Credit Saints who basically came out and outplayed us.

There was some costly errors though.

As you said, I haven’t seen a rhinos team play like that first half for a long time, i do think we are going to give some teams a hiding, hopefully Cas at Easter. We’ve played all teams that were above us last year bar Wigan, not too concerned with
3 out of 5

The errors allowed/encouraged Saints to play though. Frawley out in the full was bad. Miller out on the full even worse, they scored off that next set. Newman drops it in good ball. Croft fails to collect their second drop out in a row and all the pressure we’ve built disappears.

Saints just didn’t make those kind of errors and we couldn’t live with the intensity for long enough tonight.
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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:47 pm  
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Im not sure what game you were watching, Oledski dominated every collision in attack and defence and we dropped when he went off.
Agreed.
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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:55 pm  
Smith likes a moan doesn't he?.
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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:10 am  
Being that good for first 30, makes the rest of it even more disappointing!
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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:13 am  
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Smith likes a moan doesn't he?.


What did he moan about?

Didn’t Wellens get fined for moaning?
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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:15 am  
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The errors allowed/encouraged Saints to play though. Frawley out in the full was bad. Miller out on the full even worse, they scored off that next set. Newman drops it in good ball. Croft fails to collect their second drop out in a row and all the pressure we’ve built disappears.

Saints just didn’t make those kind of errors and we couldn’t live with the intensity for long enough tonight.


Yeah i agree but Saints defensive effort in the first half keot them in a position to take advantage of those errors, they ate clinical. They are also a settled side, we’ll get there
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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:31 am  
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Yeah i agree but Saints defensive effort in the first half keot them in a position to take advantage of those errors, they ate clinical. They are also a settled side, we’ll get there

Think we need to be physically fitter to get to that level for longer. We looked tired in that second half, when should have been other way round considering how much Saints spent on D…..
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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:31 am  
Wish they'd play with more structure. We've done great talent and mixing the off the cuff stuff with structured attack would work wonders.

Saints simply came out harder and stronger than us for the start of the 2nd half. Need lisone and fusitua back ASAP. Would rather have olpherts on wing and Roberts on loan at wakey.
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Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:42 am  
christopher wrote:
What did he moan about?

Didn’t Wellens get fined for moaning?

Said it was unsporting of Saints to withdraw Makinson so late
Walked in to the presser saying i'm not going to mention the ref
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