Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:27 pm  

Cuthbertson is definitely not 100%. On after 27 mins off after 49 mins. 22 mins total with a HT break Inbetween. Vs Wigan and HKR it was 20 & 25 mins and not picked for Fev. He's definitely being nursed through the end of the season. Against London and Batley we might as well give Mullally a crack instead.

Also when Stevie Ward ran off after doing kicking tee duties that knee didn't look comfortable/smooth running.

Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:30 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Cuthbertson is definitely not 100%. On after 27 mins off after 49 mins. 22 mins total with a HT break Inbetween. Vs Wigan and HKR it was 20 & 25 mins and not picked for Fev. He's definitely being nursed through the end of the season. Against London and Batley we might as well give Mullally a crack instead.

Also when Stevie Ward ran off after doing kicking tee duties that knee didn't look comfortable/smooth running.

Then why are we playing an unfit prop when we have one on loan and Im not sure where Mullaly is tbh!

Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:43 pm  

leedsnsouths wrote:

Then why are we playing an unfit prop when we have one on loan and Im not sure where Mullaly is tbh!

Can't be bothered explaining the obvious.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:45 pm  

two words

"Warrior Mentality"

Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:55 pm  

Wasn't Ablett ever present last year? I remember the last 5-6 games he looked as knackerwed as Delaney. I think Galloway, Garbutt and Cuthbertson have performed ok, with only Garbutt doing better. Like a few others I think Cuthbo has been playing injured and the shambles that has been our performances this year it's no wonder his offload game hasn't been utilised.

With Achurch and Falloon gone and question marks over Zak and Segeyaro It would seem we have cap space but unsure where to spend it. I could cope with losing Zak if it meant getting a top class HB with Sutty staying at FB. In fantasy land I would also want to release Delaney and Burrow if it meant signing a younger/explosive back rower and allowed Lilley more or time and perhaps a back up hooker to cover for Segeyaro.

Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:31 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Garbutt has been by far the best prop by a considerable margin - I am suggesting Cuthbertson should also go, perhaps you are struggling with your comprehension today.

This team needs a fresh start/clean slate to move it on from the Sinfield/Peacock era. New coaching and conditioning ideas - time for a major shake up.

Just because players were great two years ago doesn't mean they are can regain that standard. This year's form is surely a much better indicator as to where they are at than what happened when they were part of a team/culture that possibly made them look better than they actually are?

I didn't quote you so it was clear it was a post regarding the general theme of the thread and not one specific person or post. Perhaps you're struggling with your eyesight today. Not a surprise considering how consistently one-eyed and short-sighted you are.

2 years ago? We won the treble a year ago and played fantastic rugby in doing so. Why would anyone be so short-sighted and knee-jerk as to get rid of half the team and backroom staff because of one poor year? The previous year clearly shows their ability. It's utter madness and can't be described as anything but that.

Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:32 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

I certainly wouldn't be getting rid of Galloway. But Garbutt has been by far and away our best player of the year, not just prop, so not sure how you have come up with that first sentence.

Ablest hasn't been superb since 2014. He was poor last year, but this year he really is at a low.

Cuthbertson, surely must be a fitness issue. You don't go that far back just like that. He did enough last year to warrant time.

I think Galloway, due to his longer game time, has been the better prop personally.

Ablett really wasn't poor last year, he, and the rest of the backrow, were exceptional.

Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:56 pm  

Him wrote:

I didn't quote you so it was clear it was a post regarding the general theme of the thread and not one specific person or post. Perhaps you're struggling with your eyesight today. Not a surprise considering how consistently one-eyed and short-sighted you are.

2 years ago? We won the treble a year ago and played fantastic rugby in doing so. Why would anyone be so short-sighted and knee-jerk as to get rid of half the team and backroom staff because of one poor year? The previous year clearly shows their ability. It's utter madness and can't be described as anything but that.

We have reached one GF in 4 years - it could argued that 2015 was a blip on the back of all the emotion of two great players' last season. 2016 Leeds finished 9th, 2014 Leeds finished 6th, 2013 3rd looks like a trend to me - perhaps it you that is knee jerking one good season

Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:00 pm  

leedsnsouths wrote:

Then why are we playing an unfit prop when we have one on loan and Im not sure where Mullaly is tbh!

Because we have a coach more interested in his own survival than player welfare - simple really

Re: Garbage - get rid of him : Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:05 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

Sorry, which of McGuire, JJB, Delaney, Burrow or Ablett have been made to look better than they actually are over the last decade?

Which of these players would you say are playing at the same standard or higher than they did when the Sinny' ran the on the field and Peacock set the culture?