Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:35 am  

Barrie’s Glass Eye wrote:

Cam poked his nose through a couple of times. Was ok going forward but has a bad habit of slowing the ball as a pivot.

He wants to watch back how 35 year old Pitts played yesterday. That’s why he’s never been in or around the England RL set up. His ball playing ability isn’t there, he’s one dimensional, just carried forward and stagnates the attack. He’s a powerful running 13, but a quality international 13 he is not. Dare say his brother was a better play playing forward.

Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:46 am  

Was really hoping for a noticeable difference after the "Brad Arthur effect" hype, most of the issues still there sadly.

Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:51 am  

The video ref and lino had shockers surely the wingers legs were on the floor over the touch line when he passes the ball?
Still I thought we were second best.
Trueman bosses the game in the fist half and the wakey props outplayed ours.

Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:52 am  

Pat Bateman wrote:

Wakey fan in peace. After pounding us and looking 3 gears quicker than us in the first half on Boxing Day, then obviously watching the highlights of your game against Wigan I genuinely thought you’d be pushing top 4. You were completely nullified yesterday, Frawley was atrocious (never rated him) and in my opinion the most overrated english players in SL Connor, Bentley and Newman were atrocious too. Handley is not a centre but is a class winger. If you look at the Wakefield trinity stats which are easy to find you’ll see why you were beat. It was a clinical workman like team performance that beat you and the score was flattering. If everything clicks you have some team, but by that performance you look like you have too many individuals and not a team.

All fair points nothing much to disagree with there.
Think Wakey will go well this season, expected so much more from our lot.

Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:57 am  

Broadacres wrote:

Was really hoping for a noticeable difference after the "Brad Arthur effect" hype, most of the issues still there sadly.

He is a high quality coach, nothing to blame now but the poor quality players. Too many still not good enough and never will be.
Connor Newman Frawley Ackers Bentley Smith just the tip of the iceberg, connor will get a right hounding this season unless he improves massively.

Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:14 am  

The whole 'culture' thing at Leeds just seems so forced and not authentic I think thats a big problem, that they're trying to create something thats very cliche and corporate.

Following Leeds (even from your sofa) has become a pretty depressing pastime. With way more resources than petty much every other club they keep getting it wrong. Think I'm logging out for my own health til signs are we might see a return to better days..

Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:14 am  

rollin thunder wrote:

He is a high quality coach, nothing to blame now but the poor quality players. Too many still not good enough and never will be.
Connor Newman Frawley Ackers Bentley Smith just the tip of the iceberg, connor will get a right hounding this season unless he improves massively.

Not really blaming him, just disappointed with the performance, if he can't get a tune out of these players, not sure who could.

Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:24 am  

rollin thunder wrote:

All fair points nothing much to disagree with there.
Think Wakey will go well this season, expected so much more from our lot.

I expected a lot more too, especially after Boxing Day and the Wigan friendly, coupled with Brad Arthur as your coach. I just believe you have some incredibly overrated players ie Bentley, Newman and Connor. Your team will forever be compared to the glory days that seem a long time ago now. What’s happening with you guys is eerily similar to Manchester Utd, trying to buy success…… well it’s either that or you just got outplayed by us who evidently are decent and have a boat load of confidence coming up from the championship (like Leigh did) and performed really well.

Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:37 am  

Broadacres wrote:

Not really blaming him, just disappointed with the performance, if he can't get a tune out of these players, not sure who could.

Merlin The Wizard ? I think we’ve got to accept nobody can change the physical profile or inherent poor decision making of the vast majority of this squad. We may have a chance with the likes of Gannon and Lumb, but what you see is what you get basically with the rest of them. Motivation should never be an area for massive improvement at this level, the players should have been out of the door ages ago if they were lacking in that department. Maybe all the temporary rebuilds have got us all believing that bringing in new mediocre players as a replacement for other mediocre players will somehow work.

Re: Leeds v Wakefield : Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:38 am  

Pat Bateman wrote:

I expected a lot more too, especially after Boxing Day and the Wigan friendly, coupled with Brad Arthur as your coach. I just believe you have some incredibly overrated players ie Bentley, Newman and Connor. Your team will forever be compared to the glory days that seem a long time ago now. What’s happening with you guys is eerily similar to Manchester Utd, trying to buy success…… well it’s either that or you just got outplayed by us who evidently are decent and have a boat load of confidence coming up from the championship (like Leigh did) and performed really well.

The trying to buy success thing is something all sides with the resource to do so try. Wakey included these days. Sometimes the signings turn out well, sometimes not. Worse case, you're stuck with an iffy player 3 years max, probably less, who you then replace. Of far greater consequence is average quality home grown retained for multiple years. Obviously they help generate the culture but if they're mediocre talents then results will reflect this.