Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:17 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

Sorry I forgot we are watching tiddlywinks not a full bloodied physical sport. Ask Ian Roberts if he would have a problem with Zak, I'd value his opinion a damn sight more than any of the tools that will post inflammatory crap on here tonight.

It's the world we live in. When you are a highly paid professional who is in a position of influence as pro sportsmen are, there isn't any room for any kind of homophobia, racism or sexual deviance. Everyone knows it's not a particularly heinous crime, but it's something he's got to grow up and move past.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:18 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Don't think you are really in any position to comment on him as human being.

Why is that dear? I don't remember coming across you before, what makes you think I'm not human?

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:19 pm  

If he'd been talking to Ryan Bailey, then no issue

He did say it, but personally its hardly the crime of the century

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:20 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Why is that dear? I don't remember coming across you before, what makes you think I'm not human?

Life isn't black and white.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:20 pm  

He's done nothing wrong, there is nothing to move beyond. Normally I respect your postings but you are looking for something that isn't there. I know the kid, he's not homophobic.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:20 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

In that context though, it clearly is. When two men confront each other in an aggressive context like that, the only meaning you can get from that is a reference to his sexuality.

Utter nonsense. There are plenty of other ways to interpret it. I used to do it on the pitch from time to time. In much the same way as saying "aw, I love you too" in mockery of somebody's aggressive carrying on. The idea that I would blow the kiss, but it would suggest that the other party was gay seems a bit illogical to me.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:21 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe blatant agenda against Hardaker

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:23 pm  

El Diablo wrote:

Utter nonsense. There are plenty of other ways to interpret it. I used to do it on the pitch from time to time. In much the same way as saying "aw, I love you too" in mockery of somebody's aggressive carrying on. The idea that I would blow the kiss, but it would suggest that the other party was gay seems a bit illogical to me.

Possibly. One could easily argue I'm the homophobe for interpreting it that way. Good job I'm not a celebrity doing it in front of 200,000 people, of which 198,000 of them probably hate me.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:24 pm  

Whatever your view on the severity of his actions, he deserves a ban for being possibly the most stupid man on earth for seemingly (certainly looked pretty clear to me) following up a blown kiss with another homophobic insult on live TV after his recent ban and grovelling statement.

Re: Zak Hardaker - Statement : Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:25 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Possibly. One could easily argue I'm the homophobe for interpreting it that way. Good job I'm not a celebrity doing it in front of 200,000 people, of which 198,000 of them probably hate me.

I'd rather not get that philosophical tonight.

I'd also rather leave determining what was said to those who heard it.