Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 11:42 am  

tvoc wrote:

Remember folks last night was a rematch of last season's best, arguably the two biggest clubs in SL.

Agreed.
Thank goodness for Cas.

Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 2:17 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

I don't think we were has bad as some make out. Bad yes, but not really bad, although I agree Wigan were not much. We had some horrendous calls against us, which happens to all clubs struggling, and we made some pretty poor errors, but overall was not the worst this year.

Walters however I am getting really sick of seeing such complete and utter gash. The lad is just not up to this game, he would be better suited to the other code which he came from. I can't abide players turning their backs going to the defensive line, and he does it each and every single time.

Goulden was found out last night, and looked well out of depth. May have a future if change his skill set to a half, but not convinced in backs, far too lightweight.

Mullalley too looked poor in limited time I think.

Thought Hallas went well, but can't see how he was ever a prop. But looked comfortable and assured. Certain other players had much better games than given credit for.

Overall I would agree with this but if you are picking out players who looked well out of depth then you should have started with Handley and Hardaker who is shirking his duties at fullback.. Golding and Mullally at least have the excuse of still being novices.

Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 2:27 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

That's the most pertinent thing for me.."we don't look like winning a game" !!! Effort and game planning are divergent.....where is any sign of coaching or team talk influence at half time? ?

The fact that despite the weakness of the team (9 first teamers out) meaning only one halfback and the lack of confidence they never gave up even when down to 12 men. I would say this is a sign that the coaches are influencing the players. It was player errors just after half time that took the game away.

nantwichexile wrote:

At least the players don't look worried as demonstrated by their laughing and joking at the end of the match. McGuire and Smith looked like they had celebrated a cracking joke together about the stupidity of paying spectators

Give over. It is still only sport not war.

Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 2:29 pm  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

Overall I would agree with this but if you are picking out players who looked well out of depth then you should have started with Handley and Hardaker who is shirking his duties at fullback.. Golding and Mullally at least have the excuse of still being novices.

Is Mullally really a novice? over 50 SL appearances for Widnes and and Huddersfield since 2009 not to mention his stint at the Bulls in the middle 8's last year.

Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 2:36 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Is Mullally really a novice? over 50 SL appearances for Widnes and and Huddersfield since 2009 not to mention his stint at the Bulls in the middle 8's last year.

Perhaps not but I think he has been a bench man with limited minutes.

Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 2:41 pm  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

The fact that despite the weakness of the team (9 first teamers out) meaning only one halfback and the lack of confidence they never gave up even when down to 12 men. I would say this is a sign that the coaches are influencing the players. It was player errors just after half time that took the game away.


Give over. It is still only sport not war.

Laughing and joking after yet another dire performance is not showing contempt to the paying spectators? At least pretend to care.

So how many games would you suscribe to before saying there might just be a bit of a problem? And your solution(s)? A bit Neville Chambelain-ish maybe? (You're the one that made the war analogy )

Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 2:57 pm  

Watching Saints, and again they are as bad if not worse than us at times.To say they could be joint top with a win today (not going to happen on current evidence) is a real head scratcher.Its a funny old game

Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 3:32 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Watching Saints, and again they are as bad if not worse than us at times.To say they could be joint top with a win today (not going to happen on current evidence) is a real head scratcher.Its a funny old game

Wilkin just made the worst defensive read I think I've seen. Looks totally uninterested.

Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 3:37 pm  

DHM wrote:

Wilkin just made the worst defensive read I think I've seen. Looks totally uninterested.

Wilkin should just retire and become a pundit full time, he is actually pretty good at it.

Re: The dreaded magic weekend vs Wigan. : Sun May 22, 2016 4:43 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Wilkin should just retire and become a pundit full time, he is actually pretty good at it.

Agreed. Please, please, please have him replace Barry, Terry and Phil Clarke at Sky. O'Connor in particular is just a noise, nothing even remotely worth listening to.