Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:38 pm  

thebloodbath wrote:

What is 'technically awful' about the multi-talented machine that is TMFMISL?

I am a long standing supporter of our youth system. It's great to see players make the step-ups into our first team. Some will be flavours of the month, some will make it, some will make it elsewhere etc. So yes I do have affection for McShane. But I have the same spirit for others like Daniel Smith and Singleton etc.

We've built championships on the back of our investment in youth. So when a chancer, injury ridden, loose canon, techncially awful, 30+, rookie comes along it does leave me feeling a little sad inside.

Loose canon eh...? It gets worse. They're the worst those immoral priest type people; they really really are. Well rid of him we are

Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:23 pm  

Although I agree with JC on his views regarding Mcshane, I can't say the same on Mr Sin Bin/Sicknote.

Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:35 pm  

its make or break for the lad

Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:33 am  

Rastrick Rhino wrote:

At the risk of upsetting Rhinoms again your argument seems to be based on TWO games. This will be Macca's fourth season in the first team(made his debut in 09), This season in particular he has been very ordinary in the games he has played in, He was ok in the WCC but nothing special.
Lunt has come in with 3 training sessions and run the game something macca has never done.

He still hasn't been afforded that many chances though really in those four seasons you talk about.

For the record though I have never been convinced on rhinoms thoughts on McShane. I think the club made a huge mistake last season in letting Buderus go. With McShane, he obviously has the potential. He has a great kicking game that is under used, he has good distribution. His tackling game is adequate if nothing great. But something just doesn't fit. He is to me a scrum half who is just not good enough for a scrum half role, rather than an out and out hooker. For me he is a mirror image of Dean Lawford. But for those that don't remember him, he too was regarded very highly by coaches with an excellent technical game, but he just couldn't deliver when he got into the match. That for me is where I see McShane at the moment. But who knows he may well take that step that Lawford couldn't.

Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:27 am  

Gotcha wrote:

He still hasn't been afforded that many chances though really in those four seasons you talk about.

For the record though I have never been convinced on rhinoms thoughts on McShane. I think the club made a huge mistake last season in letting Buderus go. With McShane, he obviously has the potential. He has a great kicking game that is under used, he has good distribution. His tackling game is adequate if nothing great. But something just doesn't fit. He is to me a scrum half who is just not good enough for a scrum half role, rather than an out and out hooker. For me he is a mirror image of Dean Lawford. But for those that don't remember him, he too was regarded very highly by coaches with an excellent technical game, but he just couldn't deliver when he got into the match. That for me is where I see McShane at the moment. But who knows he may well take that step that Lawford couldn't.

It was Lawfords lifestyle and failure to commit to hard work that was his un-doing.

In game, his passing was sublime and had a very useful long and short kicking game. Very 'old-school'.

Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:55 am  

thebloodbath wrote:

It was Lawfords lifestyle and failure to commit to hard work that was his un-doing.

In game, his passing was sublime and had a very useful long and short kicking game. Very 'old-school'.

Not exactly helped by his razor sharp intellect.

Isn't he the player who when on holiday in Tunisia said he wanted to hire a car and go explore the island?

Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:04 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Not exactly helped by his razor sharp intellect.

Isn't he the player who when on holiday in Tunisia said he wanted to hire a car and go explore the island?

There are dozens of examples of his 'logic' doing the rounds, that seem to end up in former team mates auto-bios!!

But I wouldn't question his rugby brain. Two different beasts.

Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:12 pm  

I meant it more as an indication of his ability (or otherwise) to link what he got up to off the field with how he was subsequently able to perform on it.

You can teach players all about good habits, eating well, resting and refuelling properly, but if they're not smart enough to take it in you are wasting your time.

Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Wed May 02, 2012 12:12 pm  

in the U20s game at the weekend Paul Mcshane walked off the pitch in disgust after being substituted. He walked off to the changing room, got showered and went home. Is this the end for Paul Mcshane I wonder?
(hood was starting hooker with mcshane on the bench)

Re: Will McShane ask for a transfer ? : Wed May 02, 2012 12:19 pm  

time will tell wrote:

in the U20s game at the weekend Paul Mcshane walked off the pitch in disgust after being substituted. He walked off to the changing room, got showered and went home. Is this the end for Paul Mcshane I wonder?
(hood was starting hooker with mcshane on the bench)

If true then it would be no shock. I do have some sympathy with the lad (negotiates a 4 year contract, secures the no.9 shirt then is pushed out of the pecking order by Burrow ...and now justifiably by the much superior Lunt too. Becoming 4th choice behind Hood is then hardly going to inspire much faith in him having a future with the club).

Let him go I say: be fair to the lad.