Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:10 pm  

In 25 yrs of watching Leeds it was the first time I have ever left a game home or away 10 mins early! Left the ground feeling very fearful for the new season and saw nothing on display that would give me any optimism for the future,very very depressing!! Have seen more structure and cohesion at amatuer and school level in a word CRAP

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:12 pm  

i'm not sure who people defending the team think we can bring in to improve us?? yes Watkins,hall and moon are class but they need direction from half backs and that sure isn't going to happen.
parcell? we can but hope.
everyone else is either past it, a plodder or both.
going to be a long hard season

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:23 pm  

lincwtw wrote:

LeedsDave, I know and accept that we put out a stronger team than Leeds, and no doubt that effected the result. But to suggest that we had a near full strength team is a bit of a stretch. We had a lot of youth in that team. Including 3 players under the the age of 21 that all played decent mins. Furthermore we missed some of our most important players the like of: huby, jowitt, fifita, MCB and some of our other, and in my opinion better, fringe played like annakin and Gibson.

I'm sure come the season the result will be closer, I hope it is as it will be more entertaining. It's a friendly and too much shouldn't be read into it. However a bit of acknowledgement to Wakefield instead of excuses about the team selection is deserved I feel

You forgot Miller our most lethal player last year.

Cas stuffed Hull are we to assume Hull are duffers? I know hull had a really week team out but even so they are hardly having the meltdown you lot are having.

Leeds had a golden era now they are struggling. It happened to SAints and Wigan nothing lasts forever and worse still look at the Bulls - calm down!

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:31 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

i'm not sure who people defending the team think we can bring in to improve us?? yes Watkins,hall and moon are class but they need direction from half backs and that sure isn't going to happen.
parcell? we can but hope.
everyone else is either past it, a plodder or both.
going to be a long hard season

I think people who are blaming the halves haven't played 6/7 before, numerous times they caught the ball and literally everybody else was stood still, no one made runs and no one offered themselves out the back.
It doesn't matter how good you are, if your decision is to run it yourself or pass to someone stood still, then the defence will never really be troubled.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:33 pm  

vastman wrote:

You forgot Miller our most lethal player last year.

Cas stuffed Hull are we to assume Hull are duffers? I know hull had a really week team out but even so they are hardly having the meltdown you lot are having.

Leeds had a golden era now they are struggling. It happened to SAints and Wigan nothing lasts forever and worse still look at the Bulls - calm down!

I know what you are saying. But my opinion is that our Halves (The Steering Wheel) are steering us into a Wall and it doesn't make for good viewing.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:34 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

I don't think most people have actually listened to his comments properly. He didn't say IT WAS a public training run or an OPPOSED training run like most have said on here. It said it's ALMOST like a public training run.....which it is and always has been. You go into that game, the first one back just working on your own stuff, you won't be concentrating in the build up on what the opposition is going to do and it's all about trying stuff rather than what the score is.

If he and the players have that mentality then why charge £18 to get in?
Either let people in free or make it a £10 charity game or something.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:37 pm  

leedsnsouths wrote:

I think people who are blaming the halves haven't played 6/7 before, numerous times they caught the ball and literally everybody else was stood still, no one made runs and no one offered themselves out the back.
It doesn't matter how good you are, if your decision is to run it yourself or pass to someone stood still, then the defence will never really be troubled.

I never mentioned boxing days halves. I was talking about players coming in like McGuire and burrow

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:48 pm  

vastman wrote:

Cas stuffed Hull are we to assume Hull are duffers? I know hull had a really week team out but even so they are hardly having the meltdown you lot are having.

Leeds had a golden era now they are struggling. It happened to SAints and Wigan nothing lasts forever and worse still look at the Bulls - calm down!

Remind what kind of season Hull had last year, then compare that to the one Leeds had, and then try and understand why the appalling display is worrying for many of us.

And Saints and Wigan didn't fall as low as we did within ONE season of winning the treble.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:50 pm  

Mark Laurie wrote:

I did go and you are absolutely right. What was produced was very poor and that is why despite what he said McD will be very concerned or at least should be. As others have said it was as uninspiring/boring a display as you could imagine.

We've had too many of these over the last season, but the coaches & management seem oblivious to it all.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:11 pm  

At this point in time it all looks very gloomy over LS6. But it is early days, we didn't put out a strong team and we may look a lot closer to being competitive when the build up to the season is complete.........

But I'm not holding my breath and I think we will have another tough season. For mine the issue is that our succession planning has been P Poor. We had a superb squad, the core of which had played together for a long long time. The management of the decline and replacement of key players in that squad has been nothing short of disastrous. If we had a plan, and I see no significant evidence that we did, it was not sufficiently robust and it has not proved effective thus far. The rapid fall from treble winners to middle 8's is evidence enough to support that assertion.

The big question for me this year was will we make a better fist of strengthening the squad and preparing for the further departure of members of the "golden generation". On current evidence I'm not optimistic. I really hope someone is quoting this back to me in 10 months’ time and ripping the proverbial out of me for being so pessimistic.