Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:02 pm  

I thought Leeds 1 6 7 and 9 were all poor tonight and personally don't think Johnson really changed that.
Three of them are the wrong side of 30 and it showed and our distribution from 9 was poor all night. Bentley McDonnell and Mcdonald were all decent and Walters had his moments.

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:03 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Seth ," did not manage the ruck well" . He effing ignored it totally , he was as bad as Leeds and they did not deserve a 4

You're right, but for me leeds general shtness has put anything the ref did in the the shade as what we actually can control, ie not the ref, was crap and I've lost count of the bad performances this year.

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:04 pm  

We are dumb no composure little idea in any structured attack, that combined with a complete bias ref some iffy decisions went their way at crucial times, that Holroyd no high tackle and the ridiculous holding down un punished, Wellens having emails with the RFL worked for them.

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:05 pm  

tomlufc wrote:

Expectations lowering every year in a league that gets weaker every year. We're going backwards, add another 5 more years to the transition it'll be alright.

THE TRUTH

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:06 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

I can guess as i have seen it for the last 8 years .

This. And until we see evidence otherwise, backed up with performances like this, I'll back anyone to be very sceptical.

But hey, we were in the game til the end, that must be a good thing right?! Competitions thriving!

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:10 pm  

Not a great performance that one - Saints there for taking and we just made too many errors and bad decisions again.

The ruck is terrible the refs need to give the defenders two seconds to clear the ruck on completion or penalise them.

We need a bit of a rethink over the rules around high tackles and the ruck because the spectacle is really suffering.

Not sure whether or not we’ll make the 6 but that’s not helped and nor did last week…

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:11 pm  

Seth wrote:

This. And until we see evidence otherwise, backed up with performances like this, I'll back anyone to be very sceptical.

But hey, we were in the game til the end, that must be a good thing right?! Competitions thriving!

Correct Seth , if we can get Milford and Stanningley in Super League for a televised close game then everyone will be happy

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:12 pm  

leedsbarmyarmy wrote: Scrappy game, neither team played well, not one to usually mention the ref but he had a shocker. Games truly gone soft if that Holdroyd tackle on Bell is a high shot After all the hysteria this week, we see this. Bell on Bentley. https://twitter.com/SamB__1990/status/1 ... 3647282176

leedsbarmyarmy wrote: Scrappy game, neither team played well, not one to usually mention the ref but he had a shocker. Games truly gone soft if that Holdroyd tackle on Bell is a high shot After all the hysteria this week, we see this. Bell on Bentley. https://twitter.com/SamB__1990/status/1 ... 3647282176

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:14 pm  

Cokey wrote: [/u][/b] After all the hysteria this week, we see this. Bell on Bentley. https://twitter.com/SamB__1990/status/1 ... 3647282176 Yep it was no different to Saturday

Cokey wrote: [/u][/b] After all the hysteria this week, we see this. Bell on Bentley. https://twitter.com/SamB__1990/status/1 ... 3647282176 Yep it was no different to Saturday

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:19 pm  

2 weeks to prepare against a depleted Saints side and we get beat. Deary deary me… this is just not acceptable. Absolutely fed up of it