Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:46 am  

Him wrote:

I didn’t think Handley had time to go for the ball. The Cas player was already catching the ball as Handley got there. It was Handley’s pressure that contributed to it being dropped.

And I disagree. The ball was dropped with or without Handley. The ball had bounced up off the floor before Handley took the man.

Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:47 am  

Gotcha wrote:

He should have gone for the ball, Simple as. The player dropping the ball had nothing to do with Handley, he wasn’t there for the drop, that was because of the pass. Handley has no idea what he is doing and just goes for the man. The ball was there.

If Handley had gone for the ball and missed it Cas had an open field, he made the correct decision as the result showed.

Simple as

Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:59 am  

christopher wrote:

If Handley had gone for the ball and missed it Cas had an open field, he made the correct decision as the result showed.

Simple as

No, you are misreading the timeline. I am not talking about the pass, I am talking about the dropped ball. There was no chance for an open field, as the Knock on was already made. He went for the man, despite the dropped ball.

Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:14 pm  

Can I please ask what it matters if Handley went for the ball or the man? Lol.

Great effort great win. Let's be happy about it.

Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:51 pm  

According to the YEP Daryl Powell thinks there were some "tough calls" against them. Not sure what else Thaler could have done with a 13-6 penalty count in their favour and a lot of 50/50 calls going their way (especially all the ball steal penalties they got compared to the loose carry knock-ons given when we lost it in the tackle).

Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:01 pm  

Holmes wrote:

According to the YEP Daryl Powell thinks there were some "tough calls" against them. Not sure what else Thaler could have done with a 13-6 penalty count in their favour and a lot of 50/50 calls going their way (especially all the ball steal penalties they got compared to the loose carry knock-ons given when we lost it in the tackle).

Yep it was 3 or 4 calls from Thaler that effectively got Cas back into the game.
There were 2 in particular virtually back to back midway in the second half where he gave a knock-on against us despite Cas hands all over the ball and then a penalty against us for the same thing.
Then another one after the kick off I think that he then gave us a team warning for.

In defence of the refs it’s very difficult to tell but there was a period there where it felt harsh towards us.

Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:09 pm  

Him wrote:

I didn’t think Handley had time to go for the ball. The Cas player was already catching the ball as Handley got there. It was Handley’s pressure that contributed to it being dropped.

The facts are that Blair couldn't afford not to take that horror of a pass and Handley couldn't afford to let him get past him with the ball. Only one of them got their script right.

Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:10 pm  

Well needed performance and win despite appalling refereeing. It's not just Thaler, there's been poor refs at times during the 60+ years I've been a supporter/fan of Leeds. But nowadays, more than ever, this sorry bunch have direct influence on results. So much so that I've decided not to watch superleague unless Leeds are playing.

Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:22 pm  

The ball steal lottery is getting ridiculous. We definitely need to introduce 2 referees, I thought they were meant to be trialling it in the U19s this season?

Re: SL RD 21 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:29 pm  

Powell is clearly a good coach, but he also comes across as a miserable so-and-so.