Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:58 am  

Bodene was off contract anyway!

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:24 am  

Shabino wrote:

ArthurClues wrote:

We have to be patient with these kids. We've seen what can happen when they get thrown in too soon - Walker totally crocked; Newman consistently crocked; Holroyd yet to put any kind of run together because of injury. Glad that Smith wants to look after Gannon and I hope he develops the likes of Simpson and Edwards slowly. In todays game 20/21 is the new 18/19 for these players.

Hmmm not sure about that. Walkers main injury been a completely freak foot one, that could have happened in a junior game. Holroyd not played anywhere near enough first grade to explain the amount of injuries. And wild horses couldn’t have held Newman back, he was so ready.
Far as I’m concerned if your good enough to merit a spot in the 17 you should be getting some opportunities……
Look at Welsby and Dodd at Saint’s for comparison.

Dodds been injured all year ! And so has Newman!
I think Arthurs wider point is that putting too much of a strain and workload can affect their development both pyhsically and mentally and some players need longer to mature and develop.
Also much easier to do that in a team that is settled winning and has a big physical pack. You will have exceptions like Welsby and Sir Kev who are just born ready but some clearly have the talent but it takes a bit longer to come through. Cam Smith this year has started to fulfil the potential that eveybody knew he had but its taken a while. In some cases its a mental maturity as well as a physical one. If we have a bigger pack next year and are not flogging our backs bringing the ball off our line every game then great time to introduce Edwards/Simpson but lets do it gradually with a view on the long term!

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:32 am  

Shabino wrote:

Hmmm not sure about that. Walkers main injury been a completely freak foot one, that could have happened in a junior game. Holroyd not played anywhere near enough first grade to explain the amount of injuries. And wild horses couldn’t have held Newman back, he was so ready.
Far as I’m concerned if your good enough to merit a spot in the 17 you should be getting some opportunities……
Look at Welsby and Dodd at Saint’s for comparison.

There will always be exceptions. Welsby has been outstanding at every level of the game and he is big robust kid for his position. Dodd is excellent, but he just been out injured for half a season. Hope that isn't a sign of things to come. When I watched young Simpson this year I wanted to put my hands over my eyes. He looked like a boy and the opposition targetted him constantly. Not surprisingly, he picked up a season ending injury. Not saying these kids shouldn't get chances but it will have to be more carefully managed than in the past. On loan in the championship is a great place to learn.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:48 am  

Smith was clearly surprised at having so few reserves in their early 20s at Leeds. Its rare in Aus for kids to play first grade as teenagers, and he was probably shocked at having to pick 17 year olds. That is clearly the driver behind some of the off-season signings. I'd be surprised if Simpson or Sinfield were to play as many games next year as this. Even Gannon might get used more sparingly, as Smith seems to want to manage him carefully.

[Frosties.]

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:57 am  

Oliver Gildart being reported in Australia as a released player with no club for 2023 currently. I would much rather him than Nene MacDonald. Plus, he’s not a quota player.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:59 am  

Frosties. wrote:

Oliver Gildart being reported in Australia as a released player with no club for 2023 currently. I would much rather him than Nene MacDonald. Plus, he’s not a quota player.

Yep same here. would do nicely that. Have we got cap space though?

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:04 am  

I suppose it depends on what we`re paying Lisone.
And how conservative with the truth GH and Smith have been.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:20 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

Yep same here. would do nicely that. Have we got cap space though?

We all ready talked to him mid season so I would expect the lines of communication have remained open.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:28 am  

Hi all, it’s been a while. That’s what working on a rig does lol. So I caught up with my mate for a few beers last night. The Hardaker situation wasn’t as it says. A deal was agreed of two years on a reasonable salary with incentives if he hit them. However he then threw his toys out of the pram and wanted more money, Leigh and another unnamed team came in offering silly money. Leeds weren’t willing to go that high as they believe Hooley is good enough to progress and Walker may come back if his body holds up as that was planned in.
Negotiations are on going into trying to pay off Prior to go to the Bulls as they have a had a big investment from a silent investor. Apparently a centre isn’t at the top of the list as Nene wants to stay at Leigh, but the big one was having cap space which Leeds have plenty of and more to come. Also last bit and I will have more on Friday but there is a big shake up of some big players within a few Super League clubs that will shock a few people.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4 : Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:48 am  

Is the silent investor at the Bulls a Mr H. Getherington?

Would be great if we can keep using the Bullies as a reject department. Shifting lumps of our unwanted salary cap over to them is a great way of managing things. Not sure it's great for the Bulls to be used in this way but at least they're still getting decent players, for that level anyway.