: Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:16 pm  

Indeed I was thinking about this season initially although that lead me to think about the fact that this season is nearly over and we will need to get something sorted and the sooner the better...although I guess it's a bit difficult to guess someone elses train of thought on a written messageboard.

Senior was very well sheperded by Wigan and perhaps 1 good game in every 4-5 was a bit harsh. Even so I reckon that's where things are headed for him, be interesting to see how he goes after a proper off season followed by a full pre-season's training!

I am becoming increasingly convinced that Mr Mc Clellan is out of his depth. The selection of Ratu was pretty left field and I guess is a clear signal of Gibson's imminent departure and not much faith in Watkins as yet. Having Worrall on the bench and then simply not using him seemed strange to say the least as was his explanation - "we thought we were in with a chance so didn't wan't to put someone of his experience into the fray?"

I have never been one for calling for the coaches head as soon as we hit a blip, but I do think that we are in need of something new/extra/different right now and that may mean a change at the top

: Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:29 pm  

What he's really saying about Worrall is that he doesn't think he's any good. The lad is not 17, and has played a number of games. Was he hoping we'd be winning by 50 and then be able to put him on. It's a 17-man game, and rotating your forwards is a key element of that. Playing a man down effectively is bound to add to fatigue. Dumb dumb coaching.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:31 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

What he's really saying about Worrall is that he doesn't think he's any good. The lad is not 17, and has played a number of games. Was he hoping we'd be winning by 50 and then be able to put him on. It's a 17-man game, and rotating your forwards is a key element of that. Playing a man down effectively is bound to add to fatigue. Dumb dumb coaching.

Its something that happens from time to time and I can never fathom - selecting a player and either not playing him or using him for only a few minutes. Guess is that the coach feels things are finely balanced with the players out there and the replaement could upset things.

Not sure who else could have been selected though. With Bailey & Kirke injured there's no other forward with experience available and Senior to second row wasn't an option as Smith was already playing full back.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:02 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

What he's really saying about Worrall is that he doesn't think he's any good. The lad is not 17, and has played a number of games. Was he hoping we'd be winning by 50 and then be able to put him on. It's a 17-man game, and rotating your forwards is a key element of that. Playing a man down effectively is bound to add to fatigue. Dumb dumb coaching.

Its baffling when a player only gets 5 minutes or so in a game. And your right that it leads to fatigue of other players, especially when you lose another player to injury. You could understand it if it were a utility back on the bench, but not a forward.

I remember thinking it stange when Bailey only payed the last 7 mins at OT last year. I hadn't noticed he hadn't been on, but when he came on, he was the only person with a clean kit

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:30 am  

Puig-Aubert wrote:

Not sure who else could have been selected though. With Bailey & Kirke injured there's no other forward with experience available and Senior to second row wasn't an option as Smith was already playing full back.

Two injuries and the first team forward squad is pretty much down to the bare bones where the next in line is considered way below who he could replace on the field. The term making up the numbers comes to mind.

Leeds have been running light all season though, a fact recently acknowledged by the CEO himself.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:37 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

Us Wiganers panic if the meyt n prater pies have ran out in concourse!

Now THAT would be just cause for panic. Don't like the cheese and onion ones do I?

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:19 am  

2nd in the table is pretty good to say we have not played particularly well yet.

Time is running out though and we have got to start hitting some consistent form. We need to get a "roll" on or this season will just be another 2006.

The only good news for us is that no team is playing with a high level of consistency yet, though Huddersfield could be my dark horse team to go all the way to GF.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:26 am  

chunkyhugo wrote:

The only good news for us is that no team is playing with a high level of consistency yet, though Huddersfield could be my dark horse team to go all the way to GF.

If Huddersfield make the GF it just goes to show how shit SL is.

They're crap.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:28 am  

Puig-Aubert wrote:

Its something that happens from time to time and I can never fathom - selecting a player and either not playing him or using him for only a few minutes. Guess is that the coach feels things are finely balanced with the players out there and the replaement could upset things.

Not sure who else could have been selected though. With Bailey & Kirke injured there's no other forward with experience available and Senior to second row wasn't an option as Smith was already playing full back.

He could've done what he's done quite a lot recently and put Watkins or Gibson on the bench, allowing Senior to move into the 2nd row.

Or he could've played Worrall, something he's done many, many times before now.

If this was really just another league game to Mclennan what made this one so different from the 20+ previous league games where he's trusted Worrall to be good enough to play?

It's a garbage excuse for a brain fart frankly.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:28 am  

Ubertroll wrote:

If Huddersfield make the GF it just goes to show how shit SL is.

They're crap.

can't be that rubbish - only 2 points behind us now! & probably IMO playing better than us