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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 8:24 pm  
Clearwing wrote:
It's his silence subsequent to the match I have the problem with, not during. Heat of the game I get. Regardless, I certainly wouldn't wish injury upon him.


How many times do you see players come out and do that? Has it ever happened?
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 8:31 pm  
name me a RL player who has never 'won' a penalty?
I haven't questioned lomax. he possibly felt he had been punched. who knows
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Wed May 31, 2023 7:41 am  
How many times this season have we seen players receive a red or yellow card during a game, only for the MRP panel to come up with N/A or no charge. In a lot of those cases it could be argued that the loss of the player has had an impact on the result of the game. Look at the boards, how many time is one players action, that has received a ban, been compared with a player from another club, that hasn't. The inconsistency in both match officiating and MRP decisions is now becoming the main problem in the game. I hate to say it but Union is leaving us behind with their system.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Wed May 31, 2023 7:56 am  
What a fiasco, watching the playback the ref states that he is being sent off as the touch judge has seen a punch thrown. Now apparently nobody has seen a punch thrown.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Wed May 31, 2023 7:56 am  
Echoing what a few have said but this whole situation is odd. I'll admit I'm a huge Jonny Lomax fan, and he gets hit late multiple times in every game and very little is done about it mainly because he's not one for staying down to milk a penalty. Anyway in the game he's claimed he was punched and the linesman has said he saw a punch. I saw nothing on the TV to back up the claim of a punch but 2 people reported it. The fact that it doesn't appear on the video shouldn't trump 2 eye witnesses should it? Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Wed May 31, 2023 8:23 am  
Bull. If there's continuous video footage then you CAN prove no punch was thrown. In this case absence of evidence IS evidence of absence. Perhaps the saintly (pun intended) Lomax isn't as squeaky clean as people keep saying? Maybe in the heat of the moment he tried to get someone sent off, and succeeded?

The court of public opinion is always mob dumbness, just like when judging the apparently odious Myler, whose last 'offence' consisted of headbutting Hurrell's shoulder to get him sent off....
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Wed May 31, 2023 9:04 am  
Harry Pinner wrote:
Echoing what a few have said but this whole situation is odd. I'll admit I'm a huge Jonny Lomax fan, and he gets hit late multiple times in every game and very little is done about it mainly because he's not one for staying down to milk a penalty. Anyway in the game he's claimed he was punched and the linesman has said he saw a punch. I saw nothing on the TV to back up the claim of a punch but 2 people reported it. The fact that it doesn't appear on the video shouldn't trump 2 eye witnesses should it? Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

Did Lomax claim he was punched?
Maybe he got caught by a forearm or elbow from someone running in to stop the pushing and shoving and thought it was McDonnell?
The fact that the cameras at the game and the video footage provided by Leeds shows no punch thrown by McDonnell means you cannot prove it happened.
Sadly the sport is going down the route most footballers use to get penalties and players sent off in order to win games.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Wed May 31, 2023 9:07 am  
Over on RedVee they've somehow converted this decision into further evidence that the MRP is targeting them, they're a weirdly paranoid lot over there.

As for the appeal? Sanity has prevailed. I'm all for believing the team of officials in the absence of contradictory evidence, but they only get one look and there was a hell of a lot going on, I don't think it undermines them whatsoever to say "We've had a look at all the footage from half a dozen HD cameras at different angles, zoomed in, slow-mo'd, freeze framed, and it turns out you were mistaken." I don't blame the lino, he might have mistaken a grab for a punch, which is easy enough to do, but also the brain does funny things while memories are being formed - you see a coming together with one aggressor, you glance the other way for a moment and when you turn back the other party has a bust lip and is covered in blood - your brain can very easily fill in the gaps, turn a shove into a punch and that's instantly your reality. You don't doubt yourself in that circumstance because why would you?

The only problems I have with this whole event is that the video ref had ample time to step in and should have, and the MRP should have looked at the footage before issuing the ban, it would have saved everyone a lot of bother. I certainly don't blame the linesman or the ref who both did what they thought was right, or Lomax (other than for being a d*ck to Walters) because he probably thought he had been punched.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Wed May 31, 2023 10:00 am  
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As for the appeal? Sanity has prevailed. I'm all for believing the team of officials in the absence of contradictory evidence, but they only get one look and there was a hell of a lot going on, I don't think it undermines them whatsoever to say "We've had a look at all the footage from half a dozen HD cameras at different angles, zoomed in, slow-mo'd, freeze framed, and it turns out you were mistaken." I don't blame the lino, he might have mistaken a grab for a punch, which is easy enough to do, but also the brain does funny things while memories are being formed - you see a coming together with one aggressor, you glance the other way for a moment and when you turn back the other party has a bust lip and is covered in blood - your brain can very easily fill in the gaps, turn a shove into a punch and that's instantly your reality. You don't doubt yourself in that circumstance because why would you?

The only problems I have with this whole event is that the video ref had ample time to step in and should have, and the MRP should have looked at the footage before issuing the ban, it would have saved everyone a lot of bother. I certainly don't blame the linesman or the ref who both did what they thought was right, or Lomax (other than for being a d*ck to Walters) because he probably thought he had been punched.


Very sensible post, couldn't agree more.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Wed May 31, 2023 8:58 pm  
Any news on how long Newman's absence will be?
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