Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:04 am  

batleyrhino wrote:

As a terrible former winger, I feel qualified to spot a terrible current winger.

Excellent

Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:07 am  

Smith has been here a year, he was brought in to oversee a change, that won’t happen in a year, basically short term thinking will get us nowhere, let Smith do the job he was employed to do.

An endless merry go round of coaches is not what we need.

I would however be happy to see a DOR come in.

Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:19 am  

Putting the game to one side I don’t think JJB or Peacock should do media work whilst being employed by Leeds. They should be told it’s one or the other.

Having someone on the Leeds board spouting off in public is unacceptable IMO.

Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:20 am  

Although we do need more quality we have enough to be winning more than we are. Problem is playing your decent players out of position and being too stubborn to change. If we had swapped robbers and tindal early on when he was having a shocker and moved olpherts into the centres we would have won that. Add in endless dumb play and you don't deserve to win. Errors happen but consistent crap comes down to management

Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:22 am  

christopher wrote:

Smith has been here a year, he was brought in to oversee a change, that won’t happen in a year, basically short term thinking will get us nowhere, let Smith do the job he was employed to do.

An endless merry go round of coaches is not what we need.

I would however be happy to see a DOR come in.

Think that is a decent idea, perhaps the signing we really need is Ian Blease or Mike Rush or even Danny McGuire.

Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:22 am  

Sir Gregory ParsloeP wrote:

Putting the game to one side I don’t think JJB or Peacock should do media work whilst being employed by Leeds. They should be told it’s one or the other.

Having someone on the Leeds board spouting off in public is unacceptable IMO.

I agree with this, what did JJB say?

Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:33 am  

I didn't hear what he said but he's on a packed at sky, would be a difficult choice to stay at leeds I reckon.

Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:55 am  

christopher wrote:

Smith has been here a year, he was brought in to oversee a change, that won’t happen in a year, basically short term thinking will get us nowhere, let Smith do the job he was employed to do.

An endless merry go round of coaches is not what we need.

I would however be happy to see a DOR come in.

I agree, a merry go round is not helpful.
But how long does a team, especially one with Leeds resources, continue with losing game after game?
There comes a point when it's just inevitable.

Maybe Smith is more suited to a DOR role.
At the moment he's struggling with the coaching side.
Rarely have we looked like a well coached side.
Even in the 2 or 3 good halves we've played it's generally been off the cuff stuff.
Most of the time we look disorganised, incoherent and devoid of any plan or leadership.
All down coaching unfortunately.

Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:00 am  

Simmo71 wrote:

I agree, a merry go round is not helpful.
But how long does a team, especially one with Leeds resources, continue with losing game after game?
There comes a point when it's just inevitable.

Maybe Smith is more suited to a DOR role.
At the moment he's struggling with the coaching side.
Rarely have we looked like a well coached side.
Even in the 2 or 3 good halves we've played it's generally been off the cuff stuff.
Most of the time we look disorganised, incoherent and devoid of any plan or leadership.
All down coaching unfortunately.

I think he gets this year to get the squad he wants for next year much like Powell at Wire this year, next year is Smith’s real test.

Re: MW | Castleford Tigers : Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:33 am  

whilst i agree Christopher, if the rest of this season is poor, and next starts in the same vein, you're back to another coach coming in during a season with somebody else's players.
I'd give him 6 weeks. I accept he is stuck with a poor squad but frankly his coaching leaves a lot to be desired.