Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:06 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Percival was as bad as anyone else on the field last night.

Oh I think no one beat LMS last night for poor performance.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:43 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Watkins though, must have to do more tackling than any other centre in the comp. Another 30 tackles from him yesterday, it would really benefit his game if we could find a way to reduce his defensive workload, but it doesn't help that most teams favour their left side attack.

Having a halfback on the same side of the field who had some semblance of tackling technique would help. Watkins is almost doing the defensive work of two players. That and our inability to provide him with early ball with a 1-on-1 with his opposite number costs us greatly.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:53 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

Having a halfback on the same side of the field who had some semblance of tackling technique would help. Watkins is almost doing the defensive work of two players. That and our inability to provide him with early ball with a 1-on-1 with his opposite number costs us greatly.

True, McGuire has never been a great defender, but I can't see it improving with Myler coming in, he's a worse defender than McGuire.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:20 pm  

The way to reduce a centre's defensive workload is to increase a half-backs defensive workload and freshen up the second row (who will really be tasked with double defensive shifts) through using bench rotation. Leeds are about as far removed from doing any of that as can be imagined.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:12 am  

batleyrhino wrote:

Having a halfback on the same side of the field who had some semblance of tackling technique would help. Watkins is almost doing the defensive work of two players. That and our inability to provide him with early ball with a 1-on-1 with his opposite number costs us greatly.

The easy answer current time, is swap Moon and McGuire round in the defensive line. Not a long term answer, but current, and should certainly be the option against Cas.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:23 pm  

Him wrote:

In which case presumably Delaney or someone else wouldn't have been used?

I don't think it was poor Saints handling or certainly not exclusively. Giving penalties away and dropping the ball is usually a sign of a team being put on the back foot and starting to lose the play the ball. We upped it in the second half, just as Saints had done to us in the first. And you could see from how we passed the ball around in the second half that we were more confident and assured with the ball. We were passing it and offloading and they were sticking. If I was coach I'd have been loathe to disrupt that if I felt I didn't have to.

It shouldn't be either/or. He should be able to managehis subs so Jimmy gets game time to spell someone and so does Delaney. Then the replaced players get a good rest and replace them.

TBH, I'm completely fed up with the bloke. I just pray he isn't there next year.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:08 pm  

I'm in neither the pro or anti loby as far as McD is concerned. But I can not square the circle with reference to the failure to use all 17 players. It means our players that do play get through more work than players in teams that use their full rotation. Over the course of a full season this could mean tired players come the business end of the season and a risk of increased injury rates. We may only be talking about marginal differences, but working on marginal gains has been a key focus across most sports. for years now. RL is a 17 man game, to not manage your resources to spread the effort seems plain dumb.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:14 pm  

If any coach deserves criticism for his subs then it's Holbrook.....didn't bring on Richardson until 8 mins left and when he did he scored a solo try. Maybe brought on earlier he'd have won the game.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:24 pm  

TOMCAT wrote:

I'm in neither the pro or anti loby as far as McD is concerned. But I can not square the circle with reference to the failure to use all 17 players. It means our players that do play get through more work than players in teams that use their full rotation. Over the course of a full season this could mean tired players come the business end of the season and a risk of increased injury rates. We may only be talking about marginal differences, but working on marginal gains has been a key focus across most sports. for years now. RL is a 17 man game, to not manage your resources to spread the effort seems plain dumb.

But energy/fatigue is not the only factor to consider. With Parcell tearing it up as he was, even at the end, regardless of energy it might be better to leave him on and not bring Burrow on.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:32 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

If any coach deserves criticism for his subs then it's Holbrook.....didn't bring on Richardson until 8 mins left and when he did he scored a solo try. Maybe brought on earlier he'd have won the game.

Who scored dummying past a blatantly fatigued Stevie Ward who'd earlier dropped the ball for their Scrum.