Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:50 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

If any coach deserves criticism for his subs then it's Holbrook.....didn't bring on Richardson until 8 mins left and when he did he scored a solo try. Maybe brought on earlier he'd have won the game.

but at least he did get on......

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:53 pm  

Him wrote:

But energy/fatigue is not the only factor to consider. With Parcell tearing it up as he was, even at the end, regardless of energy it might be better to leave him on and not bring Burrow on.

I don't disagree H. But what I was saying was that it's a 17 man game, I wouldn't presume to make the call on the who's and when's should have been in the interchanges. I will also conceed that some times there will be good tactical reasons not to use the the full 17. But IMO it happens too often with Leeds.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:54 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

If any coach deserves criticism for his subs then it's Holbrook.....didn't bring on Richardson until 8 mins left and when he did he scored a solo try. Maybe brought on earlier he'd have won the game.

Two dumbs don't make a smart.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:15 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

Who scored dummying past a blatantly fatigued Stevie Ward who'd earlier dropped the ball for their Scrum.

Yes and if brought in earlier could've done more damage. Maybe Ward only knocked on because of fatigue....who knows? LMS knocked on with pretty much his first touch off the bench.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:16 pm  

Not rotating forwards is just really, really dumb player management. No NRL side does it, no matter how many tyros are on the bench. If you can't trust a forward to make some tackles and a few runs whilst giving someone a breather for 10 minutes then he shouldn't be in the 17 at all.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:11 am  

PrinterThe wrote:

Yes and if brought in earlier could've done more damage. Maybe Ward only knocked on because of fatigue....who knows? LMS knocked on with pretty much his first touch off the bench.

Ward was blowing & id say it's more likely than not that he doesn't buy that dummy had he been fresher.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:18 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Not rotating forwards is just really, really dumb player management. No NRL side does it, no matter how many tyros are on the bench. If you can't trust a forward to make some tackles and a few runs whilst giving someone a breather for 10 minutes then he shouldn't be in the 17 at all.

That's how I see it.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:26 am  

tad rhino wrote:

but at least he did get on......

But Saints had to change things to win the game. We were already winning perhaps that's the reason McD didn't want/need to change things. Re Burrow at least but I do think he should have used Keinhorst to spell one of the back row.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:05 am  

I agree burrow but not using Jimmy to spell a forward was just dumb

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:31 am  

I agree. If josh Walters or cam smith for example were on the bench you could also understand it. But keinhorst is a save pair of hands, good in defence and never lets anyone down.