Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:36 pm  

LeedsLurch wrote:

Martin was MoM IMO
Bentley deserved red but wasn't there yellow for the exact same thing? Sorry don't know which wire got the yellow

No, nothing like the exact same. Bentley was direct contact with the head. The Oliver Holmes one was off the shoulder so yellow is appropriate.

Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:58 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

No, nothing like the exact same. Bentley was direct contact with the head. The Oliver Holmes one was off the shoulder so yellow is appropriate.

Thats exactly how i saw it too 99. Thought Kendall got both dead right.

Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:19 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Thats exactly how i saw it too 99. Thought Kendall got both dead right.

Agreed, one was a closed fist smack to the side of the face, the other was just a high tackle. One red, one yellow was correct for me, although Holmes looked very worried!

Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:22 pm  

WireWireWire wrote:

What knock ons are you lot even bleeting about? Because if we're talking about Matuatia, it was pulled from his hands in a two on one tackle and he STILL regained possession before the ball hit the floor.

Great story, compelling and rich

Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:27 pm  

LeedsTiger wrote:

Great story, compelling and rich

And factual.

Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:22 pm  

LeedsTiger wrote:

Agreed, one was a closed fist smack to the side of the face, the other was just a high tackle. One red, one yellow was correct for me, although Holmes looked very worried!

Closed fist to the head? He caught him with a swinging arm, surely?

Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:32 pm  

If that's a red then pack up C4 for 2022. Maybe a yellow, maybe. No worse than on Fusitu'a. Probably less as the outcome suggests. Closed fist that didn't touch him!? Spoiled the game. Although both teams will struggle against half decent packs. Leeds need a big man in the middle.

Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:09 pm  

FlyingScottyDonald wrote:

Never rated James Bentley, flaming liability, no wonder Saints wanted to offload him onto someone else, won't be the last game he's sent off in either! Hope Agar gives him a broadside!

Saints didn't want to off load him they offered him three contract increases which he turned down to sign for Leeds.

Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:25 pm  

I don’t know the rules inside out but I don’t believe there is anything regarding clenched fists and high tackles, there may be for punches and striking. Additionally, the clenched fist doesn’t make contact with the head, the forearm does. I do think it is a red as it is contact with the head, slight mitigation is that the attacker is dropping as he makes contact but still a red for me.
What I dislike is that there is this talk about clenched fists making contact with the head. That is just factually inaccurate and I don’t think it is why he should be sent off.

Furthermore if we are saying contact with the head puts you in trouble then surely the Currie contact with Fusitua’s head has to at least be a yellow. I cannot say how it cannot be at the very least a yellow. Player in a vulnerable position and shoulder or top or arm makes contact with the head. That doesn’t even get a penalty. I cannot for the life of me work out how that works

Re: SL RD 1 | Warrington Wolves (H) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:08 am  

I don't like knocking officials (they get dog's abuse every week) but I agree with the comments around consistency. I've no argument with the cards issued. Clubs have been told what to expect for head shots and off the ball hits, so it's down to the players to adapt and curb their enthusiasm.

Despite the loss, there's a lot to be encouraged by. The kicking on last play and subsequent defence (particularly in the 3rd quarter) is something I've not seen at Headingley for 5 years. There seems to be genuine leadership in Leeming and Sezer and it's clear that we're watching a group of united players.

Only the most myopic Wire supporter would say we didn't deserve two points from that game. I hope Agar and the coaching team can use this to bond and motivate the team further.

Good times ahead...