Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:15 pm  

Once were Loiners wrote:

We do have some good players. Sadly some of our best are injured, and its just highlighted how awful some of the others are. The new coach needs to identify those just not up to it, and also those who are just toxic, and look to move them on as soon as possible. Sadly we can't buy our way out of this mess, so we'll have to milk the garbage along for some time. But cards need to be marked and no more second chances, or re-signing "good lads" or players who have just been around a long time.

Between JJB elaborated pressers he did say they need to separate the wheat from the chaff it was obvious what he meant

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:30 pm  

Our lack of depth means we can't just drop half the team. The problem is the 'chaff' know they don't have to perform to keep getting picked. All we can do is try to remember these games and individual non-performances when it comes time to renew contracts, but its going to take a couple of seasons to winkle out all the hangers on unless we can do some deals at the end of the year or threaten some players with ending their Leeds careers in the reserves.

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:07 pm  

christopher wrote:

Between JJB elaborated pressers he did say they need to separate the wheat from the chaff it was obvious what he meant

He's going to bake 5 loaves and feed the five thousand at the next home game?

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:12 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

He's going to bake 5 loaves and feed the five thousand at the next home game?

You’ll need to know a secret handshake to get into next home game …

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:21 pm  

It`s come to something when we are hoping we can get a few wins against bottom 6 teams and not get relegated.
Whilst we have squad fillers who wouldn`t normally get in the 17 if all our players were fit.
We have enough class out there to be top 6.
The fact we are struggling has got to be down to the coaching.
We live in the past and give jobs to the boys and the boys pick their mates Briscoe and Sutcliffe spring to mind where JJB is concerned.
A new coach needs to get rid of the likes of JJB, Walker, Long and insist Agar does not get the DOR role.
They then need to get rid of the players who offer nothing and rebuild for the 7th year in a row.
Only then can we move forward and forget the golden generation.
It happened we enjoyed it but it was a long time ago.
Lets try and look forward and hope the 7th year of asking delivers the goods.

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:26 pm  

If you believe the rumours, JJB seriously undermined Furner when he was at the club. Furner got sacked because JJB is Kev's best mate of course. If and when the new coach is installed then JJB should be the first one out of the club, followed closely by Long, oh and that guy who seems to have a job for life at Leeds, Davidson.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:10 pm  

I’m sick and tired of the phrase “Rhinos DNA” and the constant harking back 5 years to 2017 for the hurrah of it and 7 years since the end of the ACTUAL “Rhinos DNA” is laughable.

These players need to create their own legacy and battle stories, shoving the exploits of players from 7+ years ago down their throats isn’t helping anyone or anything, leave that period where it belongs, in the past and unsullied.

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:05 pm  

Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino wrote:

I’m sick and tired of the phrase “Rhinos DNA” and the constant harking back 5 years to 2017 for the hurrah of it and 7 years since the end of the ACTUAL “Rhinos DNA” is laughable.

These players need to create their own legacy and battle stories, shoving the exploits of players from 7+ years ago down their throats isn’t helping anyone or anything, leave that period where it belongs, in the past and unsullied.

In Know what your saying, but when you’ve been as successful as that there is definite things that can and should be passed on…..
The current lot need all the inspiration they can get!

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:10 pm  

Shabino wrote:

In Know what your saying, but when you’ve been as successful as that there is definite things that can and should be passed on…..
The current lot need all the inspiration they can get!

The things that should have been passed on left the building in 2017 when the last of the golden generation retired. All the current bunch can pass on is mediocrity. I don't think constantly referring to the golden generation will inspire the current crop. Just adds pressure to a group that need to remember why they started playing the game in the first place

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:15 pm  

paddock wrote:

The things that should have been passed on left the building in 2017 when the last of the golden generation retired. All the current bunch can pass on is mediocrity. I don't think constantly referring to the golden generation will inspire the current crop. Just adds pressure to a group that need to remember why they started playing the game in the first place

I’m really not sure the whole living on past glories thing is true. I’m more practical and think we have a lack of quality and depth, horrendous injury runs year after year , awful luck re-our best player and leader (Ward) and the most promising young player we had (Walker)