Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:36 am  

As for Grace's try - however bad the ref was last night the issue is the process isn't it? Video ref clearly knew he'd dropped it and it was obvious he'd dropped it but he was technically right - despite all that there wasn't a view that showed it 100% so the video ref did his job under the rules he's been given. Thought the ref was generous sending it up as a try, that's the only reason the score stood. Can only have been a 50/50 guess and therein lies the problem. Whole process needs a rethink but then as Wilkins rightly said (shudder) in any of the other numerous games where they don't have video refs in place it's given anyway. Probably more frustrating due to it's timing slap bang in the middle of an absolute horror show by a terrible ref

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:51 am  

Aye totally agree.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:56 am  

Those stats Rommel posted on Leeds' front row metres are cringeworthy. Its not our only problem, but boy is it a big problem.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:11 am  

Once were Loiners wrote:

Those stats Rommel posted on Leeds' front row metres are cringeworthy. Its not our only problem, but boy is it a big problem.

It's the root problem. Only one I can make any case for is Mik as he's carried the pack for too long. The youngest and most inexperienced (not really a prop either) in Walters made the most meters, prior and Tetevano should be ashamed

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:12 am  

Early days but I'm not seeing much that sets rookie Rohan Smith apart from rookie Dave Furner.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:33 am  

Clearwing wrote:

Early days but I'm not seeing much that sets rookie Rohan Smith apart from rookie Dave Furner.

Give over

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:37 am  

[quote="Clearwing"]Early days but I'm not seeing much that sets rookie Rohan Smith apart from rookie Dave Furner.[/quote

Smith was used to working with part time brickies and plumbers whereas Furner was used to working with full time pro’s.
I’d guess both are/were broadly disappointed with what they see.

Will Smith be allowed to kick some out or has he been signed as a patsy ?

Yet again we look like a big reset is needed.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:05 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

Give over

Enlighten me. What are you seeing that I'm not?

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:07 am  

As others have said, Tetevano is a disgrace, and should be booted out of the club at the earliest possible chance. We then need to use what's left of his wage (we'll have to pay him off) to sign a big boppa from the Qld Cup, plus another prop from SL. I've never been more disappointed or frustrated in a signing.

On another note, Peter Smith has released his 'ratings' for the match. Tetevano got a 5/10! After being humiliated by Walmsley and Lees all night and then getting sent off, what kind of performance do you have to put in to be less than a 5?!?

I don't mind losing to Saints, and the bounce of the ball in the first half, with a couple of dodgy decisions gave them the rub of the green, but the second half was inexcusable.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:11 am  

exiledrhino wrote:

As others have said, Tetevano is a disgrace, and should be booted out of the club at the earliest possible chance. We then need to use what's left of his wage (we'll have to pay him off) to sign a big boppa from the Qld Cup, plus another prop from SL. I've never been more disappointed or frustrated in a signing.

On another note, Peter Smith has released his 'ratings' for the match. Tetevano got a 5/10! After being humiliated by Walmsley and Lees all night and then getting sent off, what kind of performance do you have to put in to be less than a 5?!?

I don't mind losing to Saints, and the bounce of the ball in the first half, with a couple of dodgy decisions gave them the rub of the green, but the second half was inexcusable.

How if we we pay him off can we then sign a top player.The pay off counts on the cap and we know he's on big bucks?