Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:12 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Until Leeds sort out the top end of their salary cap they are going nowhere fast.

Sezer, Fusitua, Tetavano, Bentley, Austin, Myler - just not top class players.

Letting Walters go is madness.

We didn't let Walters go.
He's just gone to a club with much more ambition.
Can't really blame him.

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:15 am  

batleyrhino wrote:

I’m not, we’ve lost to worse teams than that St Helens one last night. That’s not a criticism of you, it’s just a marker of where we are at the moment.

Im not surprised either were a ridiculously unpredictable side in an unpredictable league, there’s been loads of games that on paper should go the way you think for it to go the exact opposite

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:18 am  

Leeds pack should have dominated but lacked intensity and effort. Knowles and Lees both well over 100m each and 35 tackles apiece plus hit the line hard. Our 5 props added together only marginally achieved the same numbers as the 2 above. That's not good enough notwithstanding our woes in the spine positions.

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:21 am  

christopher wrote:

Im not surprised either were a ridiculously unpredictable side in an unpredictable league, there’s been loads of games that on paper should go the way you think for it to go the exact opposite

Let's not confuse this with being entirely a positive thing though, it frustrates me how RS thinks it is.

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:21 am  

unpredictable league? excuses excuses excuses. give it a rest we are crap. 8th place, 50% of games lost, trainers cheap option close

believe christopher

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:28 am  

christopher wrote:

Im not surprised either were a ridiculously unpredictable side in an unpredictable league, there’s been loads of games that on paper should go the way you think for it to go the exact opposite

I admire your positivity bud, really do. It’s clear you love the club and get a lot out of supporting home and away.

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:31 am  

tad rhino wrote:

unpredictable league? excuses excuses excuses. give it a rest we are crap. 8th place, 50% of games lost, trainers cheap option close

believe christopher

Jeez, calm down it was a general comment on the whole league not really our situation. It wasn’t excuses excuses.

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:32 am  

Shabino wrote:

I admire your positivity bud, really do. It’s clear you love the club and get a lot out of supporting home and away.

There wasn’t anything particularly positive in my post you quoted

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:33 am  

Seth wrote:

Let's not confuse this with being entirely a positive thing though, it frustrates me how RS thinks it is.

I didn’t say it was a positive thing per se, it was just a comment on the league this year.

However take our situation out of it, an unpredictable league surely is a good thing isn’t it?

Re: RD 20 | St Helens (A) : Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:40 am  

I would love to believe we are on the right track but there is nothing to suggest this is the case. Occasional bursts of brilliant rugby do not excuse that we do not complete the basic skills in the majority of games and play with zero structure. Our forwards have size but don't consistently hit the gain line hard. Is this a mindset or poor distribution from dummy half. Our attack then lacks structure is predictable looks poorly coached and we often take the wrong options. The good teams hit the gain line hard make yards have a quick play the ball fast distribution and the halves have a structured play to attempt to break the defensive line with the FB often the most attacking runner.
It's not a complicated game. Yes we sometimes look devastating from broken field play but that's not the basic requirements.