: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:52 am  

loinertillidie wrote:

He's not the first back to give away a try because he couldn't see the ball in the sun now is he?

It’s not just the Catalan game, I always think we look a little vulnerable on the right when he’s on the wing, maybe not so much now that Toops is back though.

There were a couple occasions when Hall looked as if he’d suddenly realised that he was out of position and moved further wide. On both occasions the Frenchies where attacking down the middle but emphasised how easily he tends to drift in.

Am I really the only person on this board who thinks that Hall has had enough chance to prove himself and is just a little lacking?

: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:53 am  

loinertillidie wrote:

He's not the first back to give away a try because he couldn't see the ball in the sun now is he?

Technique execution was poor on the first occasion. Elbows in ..eyes on the ball.. fingers hand outstreched....is the golden rule.

lack of concentration the cause of the second error.

: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:54 am  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

Am I really the only person on this board who thinks that Hall has had enough chance to prove himself and is just a little lacking?

He only made his first team debut last season.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:54 am  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

Ahrr… all becomes clear

Folk won’t now criticise a player again after getting their fingers burnt by saying Donald was shit.

Possibly so, but all this chopping and changing of hall/smith has not really helped either to settle him into the role.

Hall is a cracking player and with the right exposure to the game can be a great boon to Leeds, this will lead to some muffed passes and mistakes sure but thats part and parcell of the game surley?.

: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:55 am  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

It’s not just the Catalan game, I always think we look a little vulnerable on the right when he’s on the wing, maybe not so much now that Toops is back though.

There were a couple occasions when Hall looked as if he’d suddenly realised that he was out of position and moved further wide. On both occasions the Frenchies where attacking down the middle but emphasised how easily he tends to drift in.

Am I really the only person on this board who thinks that Hall has had enough chance to prove himself and is just a little lacking?

Interesting you dont comment on Donald being well out of position for the Saints try on his wing...

: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:55 am  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

It’s not just the Catalan game, I always think we look a little vulnerable on the right when he’s on the wing, maybe not so much now that Toops is back though.

There were a couple occasions when Hall looked as if he’d suddenly realised that he was out of position and moved further wide. On both occasions the Frenchies where attacking down the middle but emphasised how easily he tends to drift in.

Am I really the only person on this board who thinks that Hall has had enough chance to prove himself and is just a little lacking?

I agree that smith should start next week but i wouldn't write hall off yet.
He just needs to regain confidence and as you've already noted toopi has only just come back and our right hand side has been makeshift more or less all year so that has been a major factor to consider aswell.

: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:01 am  

jimmy-saki wrote:

Possibly so, but all this chopping and changing of hall/smith has not really helped either to settle him into the role.

Hall is a cracking player and with the right exposure to the game can be a great boon to Leeds, this will lead to some muffed passes and mistakes sure but thats part and parcell of the game surley?.

IMO (and that’s all it is – an opinion) we have a more versatile and reliable player in Smith.

Now I know he was tempestuous and had his faults but he seems to have worked through that now and maybe Hall will do the same but at what price?

Do we really need to give him first team run outs in important games just to hone his skills when we already have a better option?

: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:02 am  

Hall also contributed 8 points on Saturday

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:02 am  

rhinoms wrote:

I agree that smith should start next week but i wouldn't write hall off yet.
He just needs to regain confidence and as you've already noted toopi has only just come back and our right hand side has been makeshift more or less all year so that has been a major factor to consider aswell.

I would agree with you there.

I also think Smith should start outside Toopi this week mainly due to the fact he has more experience of these games.

: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:04 am  

DoubleAone wrote:

Interesting you dont comment on Donald being well out of position for the Saints try on his wing...

A rare mistake from a proven class winger, it’s a little unfair to compare Hall to Donald – the comparison I’m interested with is Hall and Smith.