: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:54 am  

Matt23 wrote:

tvoc, as you were with the Scott Donald issue on the other thread, you're spot on again old lad.

I probably ripped off one of your posts from last week.

DISA wrote:

But Webb could have done nothing in those 6 games you mention that Smith has not done, and if anything Smith probably brought more to the table in a couple of those games.

Re watch last year's Final Eliminator and see if you can find something that Webb does far better than anyone else in the currently fit and available squad? And that includes Lee Smith, Jamie Jones-Buchanan, Kevin Sinfield and Rob Burrow.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:55 am  

Ali surely...

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:55 am  

G1 wrote:

Donald has a pea for a heart? Did you post any such views last year before Donald was asked to switch positions for the benefit of the team? Smith brings more to the table than Webb? Did you post any of this before Webb's injury allowed Smith a game in the number 1 jersey at the GF? IIRC all posts on here before the GF were that we were doomed because of Webb's injury. Please feel free to direct me to a post where you corrected people and said Smith would bring more to the table than Webb?

Of course, its' opinions and we're all entitled to them.

However, mine are based on more than just the last 6 games. Webb's injured and Donald has been switched to a different position to try and benefit the team at the detriment of his own form.

Yet whino revisionism has Smith better than both these players despite that fact that just one season ago he couldn't maintain a regular place in the team.

I think Smith is a great player. A valuable member of the team. I hope we retain him...........but get real people.

spot on mate

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:57 am  

Glenn Morangie wrote:

Ali surely...

Sublime or what.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:57 am  

tvoc wrote:

I probably ripped off one of your posts from last week.



Re watch last year's Final Eliminator and see if you can find something that Webb does far better than anyone else in the currently fit and available squad? And that includes Lee Smith, Jamie Jones-Buchanan, Kevin Sinfield and Rob Burrow.

I'm not sure what you mean there. Are you praising or baggin him?

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:03 pm  

leicester_rhino wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean there. Are you praising or baggin him?

I'm pointing out to DISA (who claims Webb doesn't do anything that Smith doesn't do) something that Webb does far better than anyone else in the team when asked to.

Any better?

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:08 pm  

DISA wrote:

But Webb could have done nothing in those 6 games you mention that Smith has not done, and if anything Smith probably brought more to the table in a couple of those games.

G1 wrote:

Smith brings more to the table than Webb? Did you post any of this before Webb's injury allowed Smith a game in the number 1 jersey at the GF? IIRC all posts on here before the GF were that we were doomed because of Webb's injury. Please feel free to direct me to a post where you corrected people and said Smith would bring more to the table than Webb?

Seriously, and you have a go at others for knee jerk reactions.

What is clearly stated in that quote is that in a couple of those 6 games, Smith probably brought more to the table than Webb could have.

Now where does that quote fit in to what your frothing at the mouth post states?

Considering Smith has 4 Man of Matches (for Leeds) now in those 6 games you talk about, I would think what I stated is far nearer the truth than what you have stated, regardless of opinions.

In relation to the Donald situation, I dont feel a need to point to critisisms of him, because I was not critisizing him. I genually do feel he has a pea for heart, and does not show enough bottle at times, but that does not take away from what he is in the team for, which is finishing. If he did have more bottle, IMO he would score even more tries than he currently has, which would be a fantastic record.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:10 pm  

tvoc wrote:

I'm pointing out to DISA (who claims Webb doesn't do anything that Smith doesn't do) something that Webb does far better than anyone else in the team when asked to.

Any better?

See post above, Don't fall for frothing at the mouth knee jerk reactions of others. Read posts fully.

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:10 pm  

tvoc wrote:

I'm pointing out to DISA (who claims Webb doesn't do anything that Smith doesn't do) something that Webb does far better than anyone else in the team when asked to.

Any better?

Much better. Can't rember the specifics of the game from him though, but in general as a player he has so many facets to his game that are over and above the role a fullback should have.

Great feet
Halfback skills
Gets into Dummy half
Solid under high ball
Pace
Strength

: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:16 pm  

Webb links the play and therefore creates alot more than Smith. However I do feel that Smith is a bigger danger than Webb ball in hand. You could say that Webb's support play is superior to Smiths, however we've not made many clean breaks recently so I'll hold judgement on that one. There's no doubt that at present our strongest side has Webb at fullback, and Smith on the wing. I hope for our sake that he can make it as a centre, but I think it will be abit of a waste of his talents.