: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:25 pm  

Lord_Percy wrote:

:CLAP: Very well put sir. Oh, and I agree with you with your selection of Kirke as well.

The only thing with Kirke, and this isn't a criticism, is why has it taken until he's this old for him to show what he can do? He was knocking around in the lower leagues for a number of years before we picked him up; was it his attitude, did others look but not rate him? Also, how many others are there like him lurking in the lower reaches of the league?

I just think some players mature at different times. We've had the same thing with Craig Huby over the last few years. He's the longest serving player at the club and has always been a good squad player but never a real stand out. So far this season he's proving a point and has been one of the driving forces in our pack.

: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:34 pm  

Bonzo wrote:

I just think some players mature at different times. We've had the same thing with Craig Huby over the last few years. He's the longest serving player at the club and has always been a good squad player but never a real stand out. So far this season he's proving a point and has been one of the driving forces in our pack.

Fleary and Farrell could fit that bill as well. Not unheard of, especially for forwards.

: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:06 pm  

DISA wrote:

However, allthough in a way it pains me to say it, I think Senior could be the most under rated.

I agree.

If I were to pick another unsung hero at Leeds it would be Danny McGuire. Without him Leeds would be even more one dimensional.

Now that his pace has diminished he'll never be world class but (like Sinfield) he is invaluable to Leeds.

: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:09 pm  

Lord_Percy wrote:

:CLAP: Very well put sir. Oh, and I agree with you with your selection of Kirke as well.

The only thing with Kirke, and this isn't a criticism, is why has it taken until he's this old for him to show what he can do? He was knocking around in the lower leagues for a number of years before we picked him up; was it his attitude, did others look but not rate him? Also, how many others are there like him lurking in the lower reaches of the league?

i think Ian's game improved massively when he graduated from University. He got his head down that summer at York and ended up finishing the season at Quins IIRC. Next year he ends up with you. Big step up from lower leagues. I think I watched his professional debut for Hull KR, I'm pretty sure he was on the wing!

: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:18 pm  

McGuire for me. Has developed into a real ball playing 6. His defence and workrate in that department is excellent and has a great all round game. He's always been natural finisher (and in October he showed how good he still is).

: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:23 pm  

Dave Heron's Moustache wrote:

McGuire for me. Has developed into a real ball playing 6. His defence and workrate in that department is excellent and has a great all round game. He's always been natural finisher (and in October he showed how good he still is).

I though McGuire was just a support player

: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:27 pm  

Bonzo wrote:

I just think some players mature at different times. We've had the same thing with Craig Huby over the last few years. He's the longest serving player at the club and has always been a good squad player but never a real stand out. So far this season he's proving a point and has been one of the driving forces in our pack.

Its a good point but there is a 6 year age gap between these two.

: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:37 pm  

Dave Heron's Moustache wrote:

McGuire for me. Has developed into a real ball playing 6. His defence and workrate in that department is excellent and has a great all round game. He's always been natural finisher (and in October he showed how good he still is).

I'd go with that, i also think he has the most dangerous kicking game near the opponents line, there is nobody better in the Leeds side at forcing repeat sets caused by one of his intelligent grubbers or setting up trys with chips to the corner or grubbers. His long kicking game.... well that still needs plenty of work.

: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:39 pm  

Ryan Hall for me. Scores plenty of tries and is never afraid to take the ball up.

: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:15 pm  

this is prob either kirke or ablett for me