: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:25 am  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

It’s not our defence that we need to work on at all – quite the opposite. Considering the amount of penalties we conceded our defence held up pretty well.

If we could manage to improve our discipline then we wouldn’t need to defend half as much as we do. But maybe that’s why we have such a good defence is due to the fact that we spend most of the frekkin’ game defending after conceding so many frekkin’ penalties.

Still find it hard to believe that Ablett managed to get pinged TWICE for being a gooby cock.

I guess he won't be on the invite list to yer summer BAR-B-Q'S then mate

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:30 am  

rhinoms wrote:

You do know we have a better defensive record under bluey don't you??????

What do you think your chances are of getting an answer to that one?

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:31 am  

Tony Soprano wrote:

What do you think your chances are of getting an answer to that one?

I think i'm getting a damn good ignoring mate!!

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:34 am  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

It’s not our defence that we need to work on at all – quite the opposite. Considering the amount of penalties we conceded our defence held up pretty well.

If we could manage to improve our discipline then we wouldn’t need to defend half as much as we do. But maybe that’s why we have such a good defence is due to the fact that we spend most of the frekkin’ game defending after conceding so many frekkin’ penalties.

Still find it hard to believe that Ablett managed to get pinged TWICE for being a gooby cock.

Even if Ablett had have ripped Ganson's head off and took a dump in his neck, I would have excused that behavour, for the penalty given against him for the "alledged" trip on Drew. That one was clear as day, with Ganson have the clearest view that Drew dived.

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:35 am  

rhinoms wrote:

I guess he won't be on the invite list to yer summer BAR-B-Q'S then mate

Not at all mate – he can pop round whenever he likes… then I can tape his friggin’ gob shut

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:36 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Even if Ablett had have ripped Ganson's head off and took a dump in his neck, I would have excused that behavour, for the penalty given against him for the "alledged" trip on Drew. That one was clear as day, with Ganson have the clearest view that Drew dived.

I don't think you can excuse ablett mate,we all know what to expect from this ref especially the players and whilst i agree it must be really frustrating there's no defence for his reactions.
Although ganson didn't react when grix had a go at him when adjudged to have knocked on!!!

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:41 am  

rhinoms wrote:

I don't think you can excuse ablett mate,we all know what to expect from this ref especially the players and whilst i agree it must be really frustrating there's no defence for his reactions.
Although ganson didn't react when grix had a go at him when adjudged to have knocked on!!!

You might not mate, but I do.

I am not excusing dissent on a whole. I think the problem that Leeds are having is that so much of the side have developed together without playing for another club. During that time the number of harsh and inconsistent decisions we are now seeing have not been there, so the players have are not used to dealing with this. The frustration they are now experiencing, and lets be honest we all would, they are not used to dealing with.

This makes it harder not only for the players, but also the coaches to get a grip on it. Especially when the coaches aswell are feelign the frustration of the inconsistencies.

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:45 am  

Gotcha wrote:

You might not mate, but I do.

I am not excusing dissent on a whole. I think the problem that Leeds are having is that so much of the side have developed together without playing for another club. During that time the number of harsh and inconsistent decisions we are now seeing have not been there, so the players have are not used to dealing with this. The frustration they are now experiencing, and lets be honest we all would, they are not used to dealing with.

This makes it harder not only for the players, but also the coaches to get a grip on it. Especially when the coaches aswell are feelign the frustration of the inconsistencies.

I see yer point and it's clearly as confusing as it is annoying but in our sport we don't want to see reactions like that no matter how hard it is to "bite yer lip".
In the past the team has managed to rise above it and their rugby do the talking which i wish they would do now plus as a whole our discipline is poor anyway and we should concentrate on rectifying that rather than chelping at the ref.

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:47 am  

Ablett seems to have a habit of laughing at penalties he gives up, and laughing at mistakes he makes

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:50 am  

rhinoms wrote:

In the past the team has managed to rise above it and their rugby do the talking which i wish they would do now plus as a whole our discipline is poor anyway and we should concentrate on rectifying that rather than chelping at the ref.

I cant remember a time in the last 5 years that we have personally experienced such inconsistent decisions against us.

I am not saying they are wrong decisions. I mean I have mentioned previously that I think we are one of the worst for holding down, especially JJB, Senior and Peacock.

But I do think we are getting penalised for things, that other teams are not. And the players are obviously feeling this frustration, which must be hard, considering the work they are putting in on the pitch.