: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:51 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

But how many of those "average" stats came from Walker in the second row?

I know I ask a question, but I dont expect you to know. But it kind of shows a descrepancy when comparing to an out and out centre.

Chev Walker's Leeds career:

Played 159 + 24 + 1 (NPS), 86 Tries, 344 Points

The 159 starts breakdown as:

Right Wing - 20
Right Centre - 113
Left Centre - 12
Left Wing - 7
Second Row 7

The sample for the stats are only from the SL Reg Rds. I could filter to see how many SL Reg Rd games Walker started in the second row between 2003 and 2006......... but I'm not going to.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:31 pm  

The stats ignore the fact that Atkins has generally played for a poor team, Walker for one of the best over that period. I'd expect a centre in the better team to get better ball more often. Ditto in defence - Atkins would probably have to do more covering and general tidying up than Walker. In addition Atkins is a marked man at Wakey - he's their best attacking threat. Not something you'd generally ever have said about Walker. The stats are interesting though.

: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:33 am  

Puig-Aubert wrote:

Ok, I've become addicted to stats but...

...if you compare Atkins career to date with Chev Walkers Leeds career from 2003 - 2006 you'd get this:

Tries per game
Walker 0.60
Atkins 0.52

Assists per game
Walker 0.17
Atkins 0.10

Carries per game
Walker 10.54
Atkins 9.49

Metres per game
Walker 89.24
Atkins 73.86

Metres per carry
Walker 8.47
Atkins 7.78

Tackle busts per game
Atkins 2.09
Walker 1.91

Breaks per game
Walker 0.94
Atkins 0.53

Offloads per game
Walker 1.18
Atkins 0.93

Errors per game
Atkins 0.95
Walker 1.14

Penalties conceded per game
Walker 0.34
Atkins 0.52

Tackles per game
Atkins 13.11
Walker 12.38

Tackle completion rate
Atkins 92%
Walker 90%

Atkins is marginally ahead on a few counts but Walker is ahead for the vast majority - some by some considerable way.

Think you need to compare Walkers stats with a similar club (ie Hull KR) than his Leeds stats and see how they compare. I know he was a developing player at Leeds but he was at a team that was challenging for titles and cups and therefore I would expect his stats to be better.

: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:01 am  

Well put finglas. Didn't think of that.

: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:48 am  

According to this mornings League Express Atkins has agreed to go to Warrington Wolves from the 2010 season

: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:53 am  

LFCRhino wrote:

According to this mornings League Express Atkins has agreed to go to Warrington Wolves from the 2010 season

I was told this on saturday night,looks like wire are splashing the cash again!!

: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:22 am  

they can splash all they like for me, but they still wont go anywhere. The players will have no pride or passion, they'll just be waiting their wage slips. I can't help but think Warrington are doing what Leeds tried to do in the 90's and that didnt work. look at the teams doing well in SL (i.e. Saints and Leeds). What do we both have in common, a large percentage of the team are born a bred from that team. They not only play well because they are good, but they are playing for their team, the team they love. Saints have the likes of Cunningham, Long and Graham down the spine like we have Burrow, McGuire and Sinfield. All started at the club all want to play for the club