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Re: Zak in trouble? : Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:49 pm  
Is there any clear proof of what has been allegedly said ??

If the ref didnt hear anything...was anything actually said ??

A bit like the tree faling in the forest if no one was around to hear it did it make a noise. ???
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Re: Zak in trouble? : Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:11 pm  
The only real concrete proof would be if it was picked up on Childs' microphone, any other 'proof' is somewhat subjective.
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Re: Zak in trouble? : Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:32 pm  
If the RFL do find against Hardaker then as far as I can see that's the material damage required for a more lucrative case of libel against those who brought accusations that, if they got to court, would be laughed out of it in an instant. In which case Odem and a few others from the Virtual Terrace ought to be checking their pockets.
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Re: Zak in trouble? : Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:53 pm  
is there any point discussing it as he plays for leeds and will get off with a warning and the obligatory £300 fine
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Re: Zak in trouble? : Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:10 pm  
Course I needs talking about! For the keyboard warriors its like a T-bone steak to a pitbull. If Zak has done it then he needs to be dealt with. But the BS reaction of the usual suspects has little to do with the real issues. It pretty obvious what the motivation is.
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Re: Zak in trouble? : Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:27 pm  
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Is Woman a slur which has been used to persecute a group of people?

N.igger, Faggot, Paki, Tranny, Woman. One of these words is different, one of these words is not the same.

Yes. Unless you think sexism doesn't exist and hasn't in the past.

My point is not about the actual word, my point is why would sexist language be acceptable if homophobic isn't. If we think use of the word "woman" to belittle/take the mick out of someone for being soft is acceptable why aren't other words that are used for the same reason?

There's an awful lot of foul and abusive language used on the pitch, especially in tight games with incidents. I've heard plenty and been told about plenty of such language from players.

If we (as a sport) are going to punish Hardaker then we also have to punish every incident of what could be described as "discriminatory" language and at the moment that isn't happening.
For instance, James Graham was regularly insulted for being ginger (by opposition players).
Sean Long was called a travelling friend. Etc
I'm sure there's plenty of other examples, including some I know were heard by match officials.

They haven't been punished.
If we are cleaning up the language on the pitch then fine, I think we'll struggle a bit to enforce it entirely but as long as it's a consistent approach then great.
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Re: Zak in trouble? : Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:49 am  
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is there any point discussing it as he plays for leeds and will get off with a warning and the obligatory £300 fine


Not with you, no! :SLEEPY:

If there's a case to answer then let the RFL investigate it and we should accept whatever punishment they deem fit. The opinions of mentalists from other clubs with a history of vile postings about our players are irrelevant.
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Re: Zak in trouble? : Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:45 am  
Well, it's now made national news. Just been mentioned on BBC's TV breakfast programme.

The pressure will be on the RFL to issue a serious punishment now
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Re: Zak in trouble? : Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:44 am  
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Well, it's now made national news. Just been mentioned on BBC's TV breakfast programme.

The pressure will be on the RFL to issue a serious punishment now


Has he been found quilty yet ???
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Re: Zak in trouble? : Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:09 am  
cod'ead wrote:
Which source provided you with that stat?


It's a realistic assessment of the 1.5% as claimed by
Office of National Statistics

One. Point. Five. Percent. A very noisy 1.5% I'll grant you, aided and abetted in their publicity by those strange individuals who seem a tad overly eager to take offence on behalf everyone.

Tell me Codhead, as a Hull lad, would you really have a hissy fit at being called a faggot, or a Pom, or a Limey etc etc, or would you simply respond with a derogatory comment of your own?
cod'ead wrote:
Which source provided you with that stat?


It's a realistic assessment of the 1.5% as claimed by
Office of National Statistics

One. Point. Five. Percent. A very noisy 1.5% I'll grant you, aided and abetted in their publicity by those strange individuals who seem a tad overly eager to take offence on behalf everyone.

Tell me Codhead, as a Hull lad, would you really have a hissy fit at being called a faggot, or a Pom, or a Limey etc etc, or would you simply respond with a derogatory comment of your own?
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