Re: Segeyaro this week! : Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:56 pm  

Be a big shame to lose Cuthbo if true, I reckon we could see the best of him again with a top quality 9 in the team.

Re: Segeyaro this week! : Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:57 pm  

Could it be a swap deal for hardaker?

Re: Segeyaro this week! : Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:19 pm  

A troubled player but undoubtedly world class.
3rd behind Smith and Friend for the Qlds number 9.
On his day he has everything, good defence, quite stunning attack and a 80 mins player.

He seems to have found himself on the outer due to Penriths "culture", I'm amazed another NRL club , probably one out of Sydney, hasn't made him an offer.

Re: Segeyaro this week! : Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:36 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

A troubled player but undoubtedly world class.
3rd behind Smith and Friend for the Qlds number 9.
On his day he has everything, good defence, quite stunning attack and a 80 mins player.

He seems to have found himself on the outer due to Penriths "culture", I'm amazed another NRL club , probably one out of Sydney, hasn't made him an offer.

I'd argue 4th with Jake Granville ahead of him and Friend - but even so still an awesome player.

Re: Segeyaro this week! : Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:37 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

A troubled player but undoubtedly world class.
3rd behind Smith and Friend for the Qlds number 9.
On his day he has everything, good defence, quite stunning attack and a 80 mins player.

He seems to have found himself on the outer due to Penriths "culture", I'm amazed another NRL club , probably one out of Sydney, hasn't made him an offer.

If you go through the NRL who needs a hooker? Who has cap space? There arnt many clubs if any. It's a position well serviced or teams are at full cap and are twitchy due to the Parra saga.

Newcastle? But nobody wants to go there.

Re: Segeyaro this week! : Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:11 pm  

leedsnsouths wrote:

My point is that players who are forced to come here, usually because none in the NRL are willing to pay the wages they demand, usually do worse than players who could still play in the NRL but want to come to SL (even better if they want to come to Leeds specifically

How many NRL players genuinely "want" to be in SL, let alone want to be at Leeds?

No matter what noises they make, Antipodean players end up in SL for one of two reasons. They either can't get a club in the NRL for one reason or another, or a SL club has made them a ridiculous offer and they figure they may as well cash in while it's on the table.

Re: Segeyaro this week! : Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:03 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

How many NRL players genuinely "want" to be in SL, let alone want to be at Leeds?

No matter what noises they make, Antipodean players end up in SL for one of two reasons. They either can't get a club in the NRL for one reason or another, or a SL club has made them a ridiculous offer and they figure they may as well cash in while it's on the table.

This is true, but it still means the odd Jamie Lyon or Ali Lauitiiti comes over, whether it's for a couple of years like Lyon or a career like Ali. I wouldn't complain if Segeyaro is anything like that.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Segeyaro this week! : Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:18 am  

^ This.

Re: Segeyaro this week! : Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:04 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

How many NRL players genuinely "want" to be in SL, let alone want to be at Leeds?

No matter what noises they make, Antipodean players end up in SL for one of two reasons. They either can't get a club in the NRL for one reason or another, or a SL club has made them a ridiculous offer and they figure they may as well cash in while it's on the table.

Cuthbertson Galloway and Simms were all playing pretty well and could have easily got NRL contracts if they wanted
Now in fairness there may be an element of them wanting to extend their careers, as players can play for longer

Its not that long ago that we were able to attract the blues captain in Buderus to come to SL for a few years
Its amazing how low the opinion of SL has fallen since then, even among those who watch it

Re: Segeyaro this week! : Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:58 am  

GH in last night's YEP: "All bar Mitch Achurch and Beau Falloon are contracted for next year so we have got very little in terms of flexibility for recruitment"

Suggests whatever cap space those two take up will be absorbed by deals already in the pipeline - Segeyaro and Ferres, presumably. So unless Hardaker leaves, the 2017 Leeds Rhinos squad isn't going to look a great deal different to the 2016 one that has underperformed significantly.