Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:25 am  

Leigh are a small club with big ambitions. They will never be able to break into the big time and mix it with the big boys because it just doesn't happen (Leicester City managing it for one season). You will at best become just a direct replacement for Salford, bumming around the lower end of SL with no more ambition than to avoid the middle 8's (well done Cas, Wakey and Widnes this season).

The fact is that the stranglehold that the traditional big clubs have got will not change. There will come a time next season when you yearn for the good old days of hammering rubbish teams in the championship, when you're sick of always being stuffed by the big boys.

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:25 am  

chunkyhugo wrote:

Leigh are a small club with big ambitions. They will never be able to break into the big time and mix it with the big boys because it just doesn't happen (Leicester City managing it for one season). You will at best become just a direct replacement for Salford, bumming around the lower end of SL with no more ambition than to avoid the middle 8's (well done Cas, Wakey and Widnes this season).

The fact is that the stranglehold that the traditional big clubs have got will not change. There will come a time next season when you yearn for the good old days of hammering rubbish teams in the championship, when you're sick of always being stuffed by the big boys.

Sorry Chunky but I think that is a simplistic view. Who are the traditional big clubs? Are you sure they are all stay dominant? The fate of Bradford would seem to argue against that, not to mention our own season of fighting to avoid the £1M game. This taken with the make up of the top 8 suggests that no one is assured success and any team can fail. Though granted some may be more likely than others to succeed. Leigh have had an outstanding season and deserve their chance in super league. Whether they or any team is successful next season, will in large part depend on what resources they can bring to bare and how well they can recruit.

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:28 am  

TOMCAT wrote:

Sorry Chunky but I think that is a simplistic view. Who are the traditional big clubs? Are you sure they are all stay dominant? The fate of Bradford would seem to argue against that, not to mention our own season of fighting to avoid the £1M game. This taken with the make up of the top 8 suggests that no one is assured success and any team can fail. Though granted some may be more likely than others to succeed. Leigh have had an outstanding season and deserve their chance in super league. Whether they or any team is successful next season, will in large part depend on what resources they can bring to bare and how well they can recruit.

Well said TOMCAT, some sense at last.

Re: Bev Risman Trophy : Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:10 am  

son of headingley wrote:

Thought not.

Truth is we could play Leigh (or any other SL team - until MW fixtures are announced) either 2, 3, 4 or 5 times in the League(s) & then once in the CC - please correct me if I've miscalculated.

I think potentially we could meet six times.

2 in league - 1 @ magic - 1 in CC - 1 in super 8s - 1 in semi play offs or grand final.

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:46 pm  

chunkyhugo wrote:

Leigh are a small club with big ambitions. They will never be able to break into the big time and mix it with the big boys because it just doesn't happen (Leicester City managing it for one season). You will at best become just a direct replacement for Salford, bumming around the lower end of SL with no more ambition than to avoid the middle 8's (well done Cas, Wakey and Widnes this season).

The fact is that the stranglehold that the traditional big clubs have got will not change. There will come a time next season when you yearn for the good old days of hammering rubbish teams in the championship, when you're sick of always being stuffed by the big boys.

Isn't that all sport in most country's ? Madrid and Barcelona, Bayern, Utd city Chelsea arsenal, Wigan saints wire Leeds ?? The smaller clubs enjoy the days in the sun more as they may be our last. Traditionally we start with huge disadvantages, finance - which is not an issue with us for the first time ever, Success - the best players want to win trophys so head to the biggest clubs, so we must counter that with other positives.
We won't flop in 2017, we will compete well, how well we will find out but I do fancy us for T8 when all the recruitment is done with Wakefield Widnes and Cas making way for Leeds Huddersfield and Ourselves

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:49 pm  

TOMCAT wrote:

Sorry Chunky but I think that is a simplistic view. Who are the traditional big clubs? Are you sure they are all stay dominant? The fate of Bradford would seem to argue against that, not to mention our own season of fighting to avoid the £1M game. This taken with the make up of the top 8 suggests that no one is assured success and any team can fail. Though granted some may be more likely than others to succeed. Leigh have had an outstanding season and deserve their chance in super league. Whether they or any team is successful next season, will in large part depend on what resources they can bring to bare and how well they can recruit.

Spot on.

You also only need to look at the likes of Warrington to show clubs can become successful as well as fail.

I just hope that Leigh/Beaumont don't do a Koukash and look for short term glory, because it isn't going to happen. Consistent investment in the right areas of the club (ie not just the first team) is the way to become a big, successful club.

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:05 pm  

Maurice if you think that you will finish ahead of Cas next season you are deluded , i notice you have just signed another over the hill forward from Catalan

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:07 pm  

Glenn Stewart was excellent early in the season. Not sure what has gone on at Catalan but IMO he is still a class act and a great signing for Leigh. Not really what we need age wise but I think he would have improved Leeds. Can get his centre and winger moving well with good ball as well as being a good defender.

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:14 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Maurice if you think that you will finish ahead of Cas next season you are deluded , i notice you have just signed another over the hill forward from Catalan

They need to be realistic and not try to reach for the moon. Staying up next year is all that they should care about.

Re: Bev Risman Trophy : Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:17 pm  

Cokey wrote:

I think potentially we could meet six times.

2 in league - 1 @ magic - 1 in CC - 1 in super 8s - 1 in semi play offs or grand final.

One of the problems of the game getting boring. We had the joy of 3 games away v hudds this season and lost the lost.

Having said I'd settle for playing Leigh 6 times finishing off at Old Trafford.