Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:25 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Maurice if you think that you will finish ahead of Cas next season you are deluded , i notice you have just signed another over the hill forward from Catalan

He's 1 year older than Galloway

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:28 pm  

Iggy79 wrote:

He's 1 year older than Galloway

and? i'm 20 years older than Galloway, with no knees's and i'm quicker. trust me that's no recommendation

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:38 pm  

Iggy79 wrote:

He's 1 year older than Galloway

Stewart left his fridge in Sydney though.

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:41 pm  

gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:

They need to be realistic and not try to reach for the moon. Staying up next year is all that they should care about.

Absolutely right and i also agree with what mark laurie put, signings like Stewart will give them every chance of mixing it with the sides in the middle of the table.

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:50 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

and? i'm 20 years older than Galloway, with no knees's and i'm quicker. trust me that's no recommendation

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of criticising Leigh for signing a 30+ Aussie.

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:51 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Absolutely right and i also agree with what mark laurie put, signings like Stewart will give them every chance of mixing it with the sides in the middle of the table.

Will that include you,or have you become invincible again..

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:02 pm  

Him wrote:

Spot on.

You also only need to look at the likes of Warrington to show clubs can become successful as well as fail.

I just hope that Leigh/Beaumont don't do a Koukash and look for short term glory, because it isn't going to happen. Consistent investment in the right areas of the club (ie not just the first team) is the way to become a big, successful club.

Its not really, its a kind of SL-centric view.

Warrington have been in the top division for the history of RL, they are the 4th most successful side in the challenge cup, and have never ever been relegated. Taken on a wider view/longer view, it was Bradford who were the interloper on to a traditional big four of Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington. Outside a decade or so that co-incided with the beginning of SL. Bradford were not, by any measure, a real big club. Bradfords current plight, is more of a reversion to mean, and the period 1996-2006 was more the outlier.

That, big 4, have won 53 of 120 challenge cups played and 24 of the last 30. They have won 45 of the 90 league titles played for since the return to a national league after the first world war (not including the war-time leagues in ww2) and thats gotten even more concentrated during the pro era, Where they have won 16 of the 20 SL titles, and made up 24 of the 32 Grand Finalists.

'consistent investment in the right areas' has brought Huddersfield no challenge cup wins, and 0 Grand Final appearances, Hull have had huge investment and moved to a great new stadium and made huge strides in becoming a big club off the field, they have 2ccs and being comfortably beaten in a GF to show for it, Cas are held up as a model of how to run a 'smaller club' they havent won an championship in their history and havent won a CC in 30 years. In the 10 years since promotion Hull KR have had millions pumped in to them, on and off the field, I can't see a 50-0 loss in a CC final as a good return for that, and they may not even be in SL next year.

The fact is Hugo is right, RL has always had success concentrated in a few clubs, the change to professionalism has exacerbated that, smaller clubs have been left behind both on and off the field and cannot compete on a regular basis. People hold up our struggles this year as evidence 'anything can happen' but the fact is, this historically bad year for us, would delight Leigh next year.

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:15 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Its not really, its a kind of SL-centric view.

Warrington have been in the top division for the history of RL, they are the 4th most successful side in the challenge cup, and have never ever been relegated. Taken on a wider view/longer view, it was Bradford who were the interloper on to a traditional big four of Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington. Outside a decade or so that co-incided with the beginning of SL. Bradford were not, by any measure, a real big club. Bradfords current plight, is more of a reversion to mean, and the period 1996-2006 was more the outlier.

That, big 4, have won 53 of 120 challenge cups played and 24 of the last 30. They have won 45 of the 90 league titles played for since the return to a national league after the first world war (not including the war-time leagues in ww2) and thats gotten even more concentrated during the pro era, Where they have won 16 of the 20 SL titles, and made up 24 of the 32 Grand Finalists.

'consistent investment in the right areas' has brought Huddersfield no challenge cup wins, and 0 Grand Final appearances, Hull have had huge investment and moved to a great new stadium and made huge strides in becoming a big club off the field, they have 2ccs and being comfortably beaten in a GF to show for it, Cas are held up as a model of how to run a 'smaller club' they havent won an championship in their history and havent won a CC in 30 years. In the 10 years since promotion Hull KR have had millions pumped in to them, on and off the field, I can't see a 50-0 loss in a CC final as a good return for that, and they may not even be in SL next year.

The fact is Hugo is right, RL has always had success concentrated in a few clubs, the change to professionalism has exacerbated that, smaller clubs have been left behind both on and off the field and cannot compete on a regular basis. People hold up our struggles this year as evidence 'anything can happen' but the fact is, this historically bad year for us, would delight Leigh next year.

*Will

Re: SLQ 7 - Leigh Centurions H. : Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:25 pm  

Christ you do talk some bo||ocks Smokey.

Warrington were adrift, rudderless, simply making the playoffs was enough for them.

This isn't about history, it's about where clubs are now and where they can get to. Leigh can get to the very top, (as Warrington have) but it will take a long time of consistent investment and improvement. There is no magic bullet solution, as Koukash has found. Leigh have first to make themselves a consistent mid-table side whilst building/expanding the infrastructure and reach of the club. As Warrington did. Then they can attempt the huge step from mid-table to the top. But you can't skip out that middle step, it just won't work. As Koukash has comprehensively proved.

Re: Bev Risman Trophy : Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:44 pm  

Mark Laurie wrote:

One of the problems of the game getting boring. We had the joy of 3 games away v hudds this season and lost the lost.

Having said that,I'd settle for playing Leigh 6 times finishing off at Old Trafford.

Me too, if it's 6-0 to Leyth.