Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:43 am  

Clearwing wrote:

Indeed. If Leeds had a bit more ambition they'd put in a bid for LMS instead.

Sadly it's not as simple as that is it. We have got a squad that needs some work, but we somehow managed to breach the salary cap with a squad that flirted with relegation all season.

It very much suggests we have some overpaid dross contracted to us.

Getting rid of those whilst trying to get new players in, at the right price, is going to be a challenge and take time.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:50 am  

Amor is better than LMS.

AVA
Amor
Cuthbertson
Crosby
Mik
Holroyd
Dupree
Mustafa

Is a decent set of props, better than what we had last season.
I'd take Amor over Prior to be honest.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:35 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Amor is better than LMS.

AVA
Amor
Cuthbertson
Crosby
Mik
Holroyd
Dupree
Mustafa

Is a decent set of props, better than what we had last season.
I'd take Amor over Prior to be honest.

Think this proves my point that we need a prop and a hooker that can whack people in the middle of the park. Jeez that line up is weak. Muizz is the only one that can crunch anyone there and hes too small for prop and needs to be looked at as a 13 in the modern game.

We need some aggression thats for sure.

Douggie Laughton used to have a saying of "if youre unsure who to play lock them in a room let them fight and see who comes out with the shirt" Muizz would win it in seconds. The rest would iron the shirt and gift wrap it for him.

We need an aggressive 9 and 10 as priority.

Our halves are far better than 12 months ago, albeit theyve no pace, and if healthy our back row looks better plus Martin's goalkicking is better than we had at the start of the season so we are heading in the right direction.

We look soft tho.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:01 am  

Understand we are getting a Aus prop forward and a UK number 9 Was told with Petaru leaving this frees up half a Oz player and with Martin currently in PNG getting a PNG passport this will free up the other half. It all sounds so complicated, but was advised this is what is happening. Anyone else heard anything

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:07 am  

Martin will become a non-fed player to allow us to obtain an overseas player.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:31 am  

It all sounds to be getting dodgy to me. Peteru frees up 0.5 an overseas player? Jesus.

Heres a genuine question. We was over the cap in 2018 by £55k. We added Hurrell and Merrin at £175k each on the cap plus signed Luke Briscoe on peanuts probably admittedly. We upgraded contracts thru the year such as Handley, Newman and Dwyer and also added Ava, Martin, Lui etc to the mix in 2019. Where did we make savings to be under the cap in 2019? I would anticipate there is £650k minimum to save. Im not sure it adds up to me.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:44 am  

The cap and player contracts are way more complicated than adding and subtracting their salaries, that's why the Director of rugby role will become the norm, managing the cap is a full time job in itself.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:55 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

The cap and player contracts are way more complicated than adding and subtracting their salaries, that's why the Director of rugby role will become the norm, managing the cap is a full time job in itself.

Its not the NFL Charlie. It cant be that complicated to warrant a full time role. I agree that the contract situation will become more intricate in the future to fit players under the cap 1 year to allow them to earn more another but it pretty much is as simple as adding their salaries from what i can see.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:07 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Heres a genuine question. We was over the cap in 2018 by £55k. We added Hurrell and Merrin at £175k each on the cap plus signed Luke Briscoe on peanuts probably admittedly. We upgraded contracts thru the year such as Handley, Newman and Dwyer and also added Ava, Martin, Lui etc to the mix in 2019. Where did we make savings to be under the cap in 2019? I would anticipate there is £650k minimum to save. Im not sure it adds up to me.

Figures could be miles off but say...
Ryan Hall, 120k.
Joel Moon 100k
Keith Galloway 120k
Kallum Watkins 150k
Brett Delaney 65k
Anthony Mullally 40k
Mitch Garbutt 90k
Jimmy Keinhorst 40k
Jordan Lilley 30k

Plus the cap has gone up by 100k a year each year since 2017.

Looks do-able. Not sure we gave Dwyer an increase rather than just an extension. He was struggling to get in the side in 18.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:12 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Figures could be miles off but say...
Ryan Hall, 120k.
Joel Moon 100k
Keith Galloway 120k
Kallum Watkins 150k
Brett Delaney 65k
Anthony Mullally 40k
Mitch Garbutt 90k
Jimmy Keinhorst 40k
Jordan Lilley 30k

Looks do-able. Not sure we gave Dwyer an increase rather than just an extension. He was struggling to get in the side in 18.

I would say those figures look fairly accurate Ghost tbh and they would balance out if not. Cheers.