Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:37 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

You obviously seen him more than me,but seems to have come on. Huge amounts since he made his first team debut, reckon he could manage 5-6 first team games next year.

Be good if he could mate but he's plenty ahead of him. I would hope Corey Johnson would get that at least tho.

Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:17 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

No bigger fan of Tommy the Tank than me. I've watched nearly every game he's played in 16s and 19s but I'm not sure physically he's ready or mentally tough enough yet for regular week in week out Championship rugby.

Last year was his 1st in 19s and he missed a lot of time due to niggling injuries and bangs.

Another year in 19s, maybe a month or so on loan here and there will benefit him more.

He is still a kid at 18 and there is no need to rush a young prop through. I don't he's mentally as tough as Mikolaj for example but I rate him extremely highly and think he can become a star but in my opinion to be playing against men week in week out at this stage would be too much for him.

The U19’s won’t challenge him enough and isn’t the best place for his development in 2019.

If you are right and he’s not ready for week in week out Championship rugby we should look to send him out on loan to Hunslet or Keighley in League 1.

Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:10 pm  

Tommy is still a kid. There is no need to rush him. Any other position I would agree but not prop. He's 18 that's all.

Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:16 pm  

A kid that already weighs 122kg. Scary. This lad is our future pack leader.

Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:38 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Tommy is still a kid. There is no need to rush him. Any other position I would agree but not prop. He's 18 that's all.

And all the best props were of the same age when making regular appearances.

That said,I do tend to agree with you on make sure the development right. Although I do disagree on the mentality bit. I have watched him since undear 12’s, and seen how focused he is.

Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:49 pm  

Imo TH ,Johnson ,Trout ,A.Sutcliffe Newman Dupree Mconnell & Mustapha are ALL above u19.
Id hope to see all get 1st Team gametime either at Lge 1 or Championship level.
It may not be viable for a whole season for most but anything between 10/15 games for most & a full year for Newman.

Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:21 pm  

I agree Rhino I’m not really bothered if we win a grand final at 19s I’m more concerned about the development of these quality kids . The 19 comp is poor so we really need to get these kids out playing against men . If we keep them in the 19s for me we are hindering their devolpment . Pretty sure the club can see this and will do the right thing . !!!

RHINO-MARK wrote:

Imo TH ,Johnson ,Trout ,A.Swutcliffe Newman Dupree Mconnell & Mustapha are ALL above u19.
Id hope to see all get 1st Team gametime either at Lge 1 or Championship level.
It may not be viable for a whole season for most but anything between 10/15 games for most & a full year for Newman.

Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:49 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

And all the best props were of the same age when making regular appearances.

That said,I do tend to agree with you on make sure the development right. Although I do disagree on the mentality bit. I have watched him since undear 12’s, and seen how focused he is.

I know some staff was concerned he didn't play some games last year when they thought he couldve played which is my point regarding his mentality.

He's a fantastic prospect. I've championed him on here many times. I always want young props holding back. There is no rush. Stuart Fielden was playing prop at that age but was finished at 27 we don't want that. Prop is a hard position for someone so young nowadays.

Tommy is great, he's going to be a tremendous player for us but for me he isn't ready to playing against men week in week out.

Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:08 pm  

FGB wrote:

A kid that already weighs 122kg. Scary

Would be if correct. No way is he 19 stone + though.

Re: 2018 | Academy U19s : Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:37 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

Would be if correct. No way is he 19 stone + though.

From Chev Walker (on the Our League commentary) who said that he himself was classed as 'the manchild' when he debuted as he was 100kg, but no where near the 122kg that Holroyd is.