Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:15 pm  

The Reaper wrote:

Are you genuinely suggesting that they’ve just changed the rules to allow us to do it? Insanity

Good grief,t I think you've finally understood why this has very quickly become such a huge scandal.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:25 pm  

https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=199 I think some people need to read section D2:62 onwards. Some points of clarity. No there is no limit set by the operational rules on the appeals process, only that must new evidence that is presented wasn’t previously available. As far as I can tell, there’s no such thing as appealing the previous appeal outcome only - each appeal appeals the whole charge, even if that is the intent of the person doing the appealing. So this is the same process as Leeds have used this year as well. Judging by the comments in the Saints statement, I assume they brought Wednesdays appeal on the basis of “failed to act fairly in a procedural sense”, given they called the outcome of Tuesdays appeal “unreasonable”. I will read the promised minutes with interest for sure. All that being said, it’s an absolute farce of a system, poorly articulated in the rules and given the much increased importance it has played this year, absolutely needs overhauling.

https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=199 I think some people need to read section D2:62 onwards. Some points of clarity. No there is no limit set by the operational rules on the appeals process, only that must new evidence that is presented wasn’t previously available. As far as I can tell, there’s no such thing as appealing the previous appeal outcome only - each appeal appeals the whole charge, even if that is the intent of the person doing the appealing. So this is the same process as Leeds have used this year as well. Judging by the comments in the Saints statement, I assume they brought Wednesdays appeal on the basis of “failed to act fairly in a procedural sense”, given they called the outcome of Tuesdays appeal “unreasonable”. I will read the promised minutes with interest for sure. All that being said, it’s an absolute farce of a system, poorly articulated in the rules and given the much increased importance it has played this year, absolutely needs overhauling.

Refund! : Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:36 pm  

That is what i would do if i purchased tickets for Saturday. The RFL issue bans to players then when threatened with legal action reverse the verdict

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:47 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/2021-operational-rules-tiers-1-3/index.html#p=199

I think some people need to read section D2:62 onwards.

Some points of clarity. No there is no limit set by the operational rules on the appeals process, only that must new evidence that is presented wasn’t previously available.

I mean it says it there in black and white, clear as crystal. "The decision of the... Appeals Tribunal shall be final and binding".

You get no second chances, you get nothing, you lose. Good Day Sir.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:55 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

I mean it says it there in black and white, clear as crystal. "The decision of the... Appeals Tribunal shall be final and binding".

You get no second chances, you get nothing, you lose. Good Day Sir.

… hence the requirement for new evidence. Leeds have used the same process twice which they couldn’t do with your interpretation.

I’m not saying it’s a good system, or particularly defendable in any way. I’m just saying that the suggestions that the process has been changed in some way is nonsense. This is incompetence not conspiracy…

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:02 am  

Sorry but if you're just going to keep on making the same incorrect point about Leeds appealing appeals there's really no merit in continuing to discuss this with you.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:17 am  

I'm not a leeds fan. Used to admire Saints but no longer. The incident was a deliberate foul action by Knowles which could so easily have broken an opponents arm or dislocated his shoulder - a disgrace that his ban has been overturned.
"Integrity" and the "RFL disciplinary committee" should no longer be mentioned in the same sentence.
Shame on you, RFL.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:14 am  

roydskt wrote:

I'm not a leeds fan. Used to admire Saints but no longer. The incident was a deliberate foul action by Knowles which could so easily have broken an opponents arm or dislocated his shoulder - a disgrace that his ban has been overturned.
"Integrity" and the "RFL disciplinary committee" should no longer be mentioned in the same sentence.
Shame on you, RFL.

100% agree Saints will probably win their 4 in a row but that legacy has been forever tarnished now. Games should be won on the pitch not in corners whispering in peoples ears offering threats or worse incentives to change the rules in your favour!

Re: Refund! : Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:26 am  

Not going will stop you watching the great player Knowles is. Don't cut your nose of to spite your face.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:32 am  

I don’t think it’s corruption, just incompetence of the highest order. For a start I think they’re too incompetent to be corrupt…