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Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:06 am  
His man management and in particular how he spoke to Junior players was appalling. The man's an ego maniac.
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Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:11 pm  
At some stage he passed from being a slightly odd, highly driven character with immense self belief into an aggressive loon who clearly believed in his own mythology. The current situation we're in started well before the end of his watch, with the laughably amateur treatment of junior development. It was clear he really had no idea what to do to replace the Golden Generation, and our decline since then until he left is as much his fault as Hetherington's.

If he seriously thinks every player should be capable of 80 minutes then he's a fool. Big bopper forwards train to do short bursts, and even those with amazing stamina can't generally do more than 50-60 minutes a game, and most far less. If they trained to play 80 minutes they could, but they'd be far less dynamic.
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Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:30 pm  
hetherington putting brian mac, then barrie mac then Morley in charge was terrible judgement
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Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:05 pm  
Completely agree about Barrie. Morley was not there long.
As for Brian Mc, I know he was could upset people but for the most part he got results, more SL titles than any other coach and I know he asked for certain people to be signed at end of the golden period and did not get them.

He was not daft , he knew what big gaps were being left in particular when McGuire left.
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Re: Where do we go from here : Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:14 pm  
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At some stage he passed from being a slightly odd, highly driven character with immense self belief into an aggressive loon who clearly believed in his own mythology. The current situation we're in started well before the end of his watch, with the laughably amateur treatment of junior development. It was clear he really had no idea what to do to replace the Golden Generation, and our decline since then until he left is as much his fault as Hetherington's.

If he seriously thinks every player should be capable of 80 minutes then he's a fool. Big bopper forwards train to do short bursts, and even those with amazing stamina can't generally do more than 50-60 minutes a game, and most far less. If they trained to play 80 minutes they could, but they'd be far less dynamic.


McDermott used league games at times to test and stretch players , sometimes it looked nuts but he was all about getting them capable of going above and beyond when push came to shove in big games. I don’t recall him doing the unused sub routine in big games unless we were winning by plenty.

He could do this type of thing because he had a hardened core of quality players.

He used some league matches to test and trial and push players and see what reaction he got. His job was not youth development that was Barrie McDermott. For mine that’s where we went wrong.

I was not a big fan myself but he was good at pushing some players buttons and getting responses. He also pushed players to come up with answers themselves in games.

I don’t think it would work with this group but his record speaks for itself.
I’d add he left in 2018 and we are now 5 years on, I don’t think he carries any blame for current state.
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Re: Where do we go from here : Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:34 am  
Anyone else feel that the daily clips from the glory years on the Rhinos twitter page are a bit naff given the current context?
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Re: Where do we go from here : Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:56 am  
don't do social media myself but I guess some might like it
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Re: Where do we go from here : Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:05 am  
Seth wrote:
Anyone else feel that the daily clips from the glory years on the Rhinos twitter page are a bit naff given the current context?


It's a bit Bullseye, as in look at what you could have won... Tone deaf.
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Re: Where do we go from here : Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:30 am  
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don't do social media myself but I guess some might like it

You do realise you’re on social media right now? Lol
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Re: Where do we go from here : Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:57 am  
but I'm really not.....lol
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