: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:29 pm  

tvoc wrote:

Thanks.

Tony Smith's win percentage about to go into reverse?

Did he not lose his first game with Leeds or am I thinking of Murray against Cas in the CC at Headingley

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:34 pm  

Lord_Percy wrote:

He's lost his last 3 games as a coach, so I hope not

Good point well made, me neither in that case.

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:38 pm  

Dirty Pretty Thing wrote:

Did he not lose his first game with Leeds or am I thinking of Murray against Cas in the CC at Headingley

It was Murray who started, and finished, his Leeds coaching career with defeats against Cas.

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:40 pm  

Dirty Pretty Thing wrote:

Did he not lose his first game with Leeds or am I thinking of Murray against Cas in the CC at Headingley

You are but just to confirm re Tony Smith at Leeds:

TS..... 22-Feb-04..... 09 - 01..... Won 58 - 14..... Leeds Rhinos V London Broncos
TS..... 29-Feb-04..... CC - 04..... Won 18 - 68..... Workington Town V Leeds Rhinos
TS..... 7-Mar-04..... 09 - 02..... Won 8 - 34..... Castleford Tigers V Leeds Rhinos
TS..... 13-Feb-04..... CC - 05..... Lost 24 - 14..... St Helens V Leeds Rhinos

Here's one after a change of coach in this fixture:

DP..... 12-Apr-01..... 06 - 05..... Lost 36 - 6..... Warrington Wolves V Leeds Rhinos

[Frosties.]

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:57 pm  

Tony Smith is a great quality coach, as we all know, and i hope he does a good job at Warrington... after sunday.

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:04 pm  

tvoc wrote:

You are but just to confirm re Tony Smith at Leeds:

TS..... 22-Feb-04..... 09 - 01..... Won 58 - 14..... Leeds Rhinos V London Broncos
TS..... 29-Feb-04..... CC - 04..... Won 18 - 68..... Workington Town V Leeds Rhinos
TS..... 7-Mar-04..... 09 - 02..... Won 8 - 34..... Castleford Tigers V Leeds Rhinos
TS..... 13-Feb-04..... CC - 05..... Lost 24 - 14..... St Helens V Leeds Rhinos

Here's one after a change of coach in this fixture:

DP..... 12-Apr-01..... 06 - 05..... Lost 36 - 6..... Warrington Wolves V Leeds Rhinos

Thought it was Murray as didn't we only lose 2 SL games in Smith's 1st season (Saints away and ?) although weren't there 2 draws with Wigan. Just couldn't remember who knocked us out of CC and whether this still started pre season at the time.

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:05 pm  

Kallum Watkins' Left Boot wrote:

Take a guess. Can you really see TS listening to JL? come on, whos got the most medals and winnings?

Sean Long?

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:11 pm  

Dirty Pretty Thing wrote:

Thought it was Murray as didn't we only lose 2 SL games in Smith's 1st season (Saints away and ?) although weren't there 2 draws with Wigan. Just couldn't remember who knocked us out of CC and whether this still started pre season at the time.

The two draws with Wigan season was 2003 under Powell.

The dropped points in the 2004 League campaign:

TS..... 30-Apr-04..... 09 - 09..... Lost 56 - 10..... St Helens V Leeds Rhinos
TS..... 19-Jun-04..... 09 - 15..... Lost 26 - 22..... Wigan Warriors V Leeds Rhinos
TS..... 18-Jul-04..... 09 - 19..... Drew 36 - 36..... London Broncos V Leeds Rhinos
TS..... 3-Sep-04..... 09 - 26..... Drew 12 - 12..... Wigan Warriors V Leeds Rhinos

You've already had the CC defeat at St Helens so:

TS..... 2-Oct-04..... PO - QSF..... Lost 12 - 26..... Leeds Rhinos V Bradford Bulls

Rounds it off. What an awful first season in charge.

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:24 pm  

Glenn Morangie wrote:

Sean Long?

already been done

: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:23 pm  

Dave Heron's Moustache wrote:

Alternatively, they could use the same defensive pattern England used in the World Cup and they'll be relegated.

there is no relegetion