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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:48 am  
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If it was a contractual clause then yes, if not who knows. Neither coach appear to go in for public negative comments regarding individual performances from players.
If I were Worrall I'd hardly construe Mclennan's comments this week as positive or a glowing endorsement.
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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:55 am  
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One wonders when the coach will address this slide or, indeed, if he is capable of so doing.


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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:57 am  
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If I were Worrall I'd hardly construe Mclennan's comments this week as positive or a glowing endorsement.


He implied he didn't see Worrall as a game breaker with Leeds needing one to come from behind.
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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:58 am  
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He implied he didn't see Worrall as a game breaker with Leeds needing one to come from behind.
Is that a "positive" from Worrall's point of view?
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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:02 pm  
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While you may well be the chap at the front in the fancy nightgown I don't see myself as one of the curly haired followers.
You raise a valid point about how far backwards Sinfield has gone under Mclennan's stewardship in terms of discipline.

Its' not just there though is it. Remember, our captain was shorlisted for Man of Steel at least twice under Smith's guidance.

Since McLenann's arrival he's looked a shadow of that player, albiet still a very important one in terms of our team.

Why would you not want to further discussion the regression Mclennan is instilling in our better players? It's an important issue.
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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:06 pm  
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Is that a "positive" from Worrall's point of view?


It's probably a sincere appraisal although I've no idea if Worrall would agree or see it that way.

McClennan still wasn't commenting on an individual player's performance as he didn't once mention Worrall's ability or lack of to warm the bench.
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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:17 pm  
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McClennan still wasn't commenting on an individual player's performance as he didn't once mention Worrall's ability or lack of to warm the bench.
:lol:

I hope the Chief exec sits down privately with the coach and gives an honest assessment of his performance last weekend.
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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:23 pm  
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I hope the Chief exec sits down privately with the coach and gives an honest assessment of his performance last weekend.


And I hope the coach does likewise with the CEO's performance in the off season when replacing Toopi, Scruton, Tansey and Ellis with Buderus.
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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:31 pm  
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You raise a valid point about how far backwards Sinfield has gone under Mclennan's stewardship in terms of discipline.

Its' not just there though is it. Remember, our captain was shorlisted for Man of Steel at least twice under Smith's guidance.

Since McLenann's arrival he's looked a shadow of that player, albiet still a very important one in terms of our team.

Why would you not want to further discussion the regression Mclennan is instilling in our better players? It's an important issue.


By accident you've prompted an interesting point.

I've just looked up 8 other players to see if their discipline has got better or worse, or, more to the point, I was looking to see how much worse.

Danny McGuire & Rob Burrow are far less likely to give away penalties this year than last year.

Ali & JJB are also improved under Mclennan (despite JJB being singled out unfairly as some sort of penalty machine this year) with JJB markedly better this year.

Lee Smith is worse this year, but last year stayed at the same level as under Tony Smith - mirroring the team.

Keith Senior and Jamie Peacock were terrible last year - far, far worse than 2007 but both have turned that round completely this year.

For the team to have changed so radically this year (from 9th worst to 2nd worst) there must be others, beyond Smith & Sinfield who have got far worse in 2009 if players like Peacock, Senior, JJB, Burrow & McGuire are actually conceding far less. Also suggests that something is being done to curb indiscipline but that some players are responding well, but others are not.
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: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:40 pm  
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By accident you've prompted an interesting point.

I've just looked up 8 other players to see if their discipline has got better or worse, or, more to the point, I was looking to see how much worse.

Danny McGuire & Rob Burrow are far less likely to give away penalties this year than last year.

Ali & JJB are also improved under Mclennan (despite JJB being singled out unfairly as some sort of penalty machine this year) with JJB markedly better this year.

Lee Smith is worse this year, but last year stayed at the same level as under Tony Smith - mirroring the team.

Keith Senior and Jamie Peacock were terrible last year - far, far worse than 2007 but both have turned that round completely this year.

For the team to have changed so radically this year (from 9th worst to 2nd worst) there must be others, beyond Smith & Sinfield who have got far worse in 2009 if players like Peacock, Senior, JJB, Burrow & McGuire are actually conceding far less. Also suggests that something is being done to curb indiscipline but that some players are responding well, but others are not.


what about Ablett? he seems to have given away his fair share this year
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